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Ski length question (Whitedot R.108 CarbonLite)

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hello guys! Hope I've posted this in the right place.

 

Short version: Can you help me decide on the proper length for the Whitedot R.108 - 186 cm or 195 cm?

 

Me:

Weight: 80 kg / 176 lbs

Height: 186 cm / 6’1”

Skill level: Intermediate-advanced. Ski everything reasonably comfortably in-bounds. Back-country and touring is still pretty new to me.

Location: Primarily Switzerland and Austria.

Intended use: In-bounds for powder days, a bit of side-country, occasional weekends with single day touring trips.

 

My current skis: Völkl V-Werks RTM 84 (176 cm). I like these a lot, even if they flap around a bit when going fast.

 

Demoed skis last season:

Spent one day on Stöckli Stormrider Pro 115 (195 cm). These skis kicked my butt except when charging like a maniac down the fall-line (wasn't a powder day, though).

Also spent one day on Stöckli Stormrider 107 (192 cm), and these felt great. Was seriously considering to get these, but I think they are on the heavy side for touring.

 

So now I’m seriously considering the Whitedot R.108 CarbonLite (formerly “Ranger”). They should be sufficiently wide underfoot, apparently quite versatile, and surprisingly light for their size. A couple of reviewers have also pointed out that they are reasonably damp up to moderate speeds, despite their low weight.

 

According to the “choosing a ski length” guide, I should probably go for the 186 cm length, but considering the tip rocker and thus reduced effective edge length, I’m a bit unsure what to go for (the alternative would be 195 cm, although that sounds a bit on the long side). Unfortunately, I don’t know of any place nearby where I can try them before buying.

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

post #2 of 9
Only you can decide what length is right for you.

If you choose the 195 you will know right away if it was the wrong decision. If, on the other hand, you choose the 186, you will never know if it was the wrong decision.

I'm 1.80m tall and ski 183cm skis that are 110mm underfoot. I'm an expert skier and know that 195cm would be way too long for me.
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks a lot for your input. If I got to order them online, it sounds like 186 would be a safer bet. I'll keep looking for a place where I can rent them, preferably both sizes. That's still the only way to know for sure, I guess. 

post #4 of 9
If you get to Mayrhofen, Paul one of the Whitedot owners can almost certainly hook you up with some demos.
post #5 of 9

If the OP gets a ski that is 108mm wide, then it is a powder ski where edging and therefore reduced edge length that is in contact with hard packed snow due to rocker is not much of a factor.

 

At 176 lbs. the Op should have plenty of float on a ski that is 108m wide by 186cm long.

 

IMO the 195cm ski is for big guy experts. The OP is neither, so no need to demo it.

post #6 of 9

Found a review of the 2014-15 White Dot R.108 in 186cm, but can't figure out the ht/wt of the reviewer.  He obviously liked it.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/142930/i-see-dots-whitedot-carbonlite-reviews-preacher-director-r-108-redeemer-2014-2015

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fatbob View Post

If you get to Mayrhofen, Paul one of the Whitedot owners can almost certainly hook you up with some demos.

I will be going to Ischgl in Austria for a week towards the end of February, but Mayrhofen seems to be a couple of hours farther away. I'm anyway hoping to have a pair of lighter skis by the end of January, since I'll be going touring for a weekend then. But thanks for the tip!

 

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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post
 

If the OP gets a ski that is 108mm wide, then it is a powder ski where edging and therefore reduced edge length that is in contact with hard packed snow due to rocker is not much of a factor.

 

At 176 lbs. the Op should have plenty of float on a ski that is 108m wide by 186cm long.

 

IMO the 195cm ski is for big guy experts. The OP is neither, so no need to demo it.

I believe you just confirmed what I've been starting to suspect after reading some more reviews of similar skis - the 186 should carry me just fine on whatever snow I can expect to find myself on. Plus I want something that doesn't burst my lungs on the way up either, so the reduced weight is an added benefit. And for my build, the 186 length is probably quite a bit more nimble on the way down. 

 

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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Found a review of the 2014-15 White Dot R.108 in 186cm, but can't figure out the ht/wt of the reviewer.  He obviously liked it.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/142930/i-see-dots-whitedot-carbonlite-reviews-preacher-director-r-108-redeemer-2014-2015

This is one of the reviews I read that made me want to try these skis, as they seem like an excellent fit for my needs.

 

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I managed to locate a store nearby that might have these skis, so I'll give them a call this week to ask if they can rent me a pair at 186 cm. If they live up to my expectations, don't be surprised if another post pops up regarding what bindings to mount on them :-)

 

Thank you so much for your help guys!

post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by krakatau View Post
 

 

I managed to locate a store nearby that might have these skis, so I'll give them a call this week to ask if they can rent me a pair at 186 cm. If they live up to my expectations, don't be surprised if another post pops up regarding what bindings to mount on them :-)

 

Thank you so much for your help guys!

 

Alternately - depending on where in CH you are - if you can get to Chamonix for a weekend these guys have the Whitedot demo fleet http://www.echobase.biz/about.php

post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatbob View Post
 

 

Alternately - depending on where in CH you are - if you can get to Chamonix for a weekend these guys have the Whitedot demo fleet http://www.echobase.biz/about.php

Funny, in terms of driving distance I'm located pretty much smack bang in the middle between Chamonix and Mayrhofen. I'll keep it in mind if I'm going that way, though. Still haven't been to Chamonix. Thank you!

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