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Aggressive B Skier wanting to learn how to tune.

post #1 of 7
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Hey Guys,

I am looking to start tuning my skis versus having a shop or a friend do it. Should I buy a kit? Everything individually? If individually what brands and everything? Also I know how to wax my skis and the basics of tuning the edge but will someone help me out with the details of tuning the edges, I do not want to mess it up.

Thanks


-C
post #2 of 7

I was in the same position as you last year.  I had my shop sharpen / wax my skis to my desired edge angles (so I knew what I was starting with...) and then I just spent last season using diamond stones to re-sharpen the edges every couple days and re-waxed as necessary.

 

I think it would be hard to really mess up with diamond stones, so I would start there.  Get a shop to give your skis an initial tune, ask them what the edges are set at (and then you know what to set your file guides to) and go to work. 

 

@Jacques has some really good videos, you can see them here:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLADABC267A2F54961

 

Or *the* shop in Stowe, VT has some good videos as well:  http://www.edgewiseskiservice.com/alpine-instructional-videos/

 

That said, as with everything, everybody has their own peculiar way of doing things.  Jacques' videos and edgewise's videos differ in some respects, and they're similar in other respects.

 

Watch the above videos, get a basic understanding of how to maintain edges and wax bases and give it a try.

post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by Creynolds View Post

Hey Guys,

I am looking to start tuning my skis versus having a shop or a friend do it. Should I buy a kit? Everything individually? If individually what brands and everything? Also I know how to wax my skis and the basics of tuning the edge but will someone help me out with the details of tuning the edges, I do not want to mess it up.

Thanks


-C


I would second Kevin F here.  Watch a bunch of videos first. 

Then I would recommend this kit to get you started.  For tuning : http://www.the-raceplace.com/Pro-Tune-Package-p/3034z.htm

Then this kit for waxing :  http://www.the-raceplace.com/BEAST-Basic-Wax-Package-p/3042z.htm 

You will need more than both these have to offer, so if you want the real deal here is the best start.  Seems like a lot of money, but most of the stuff will last years and pay off in the end.   This has everything you need less a bench and a vice.  You can make a bench, but you will need a vice.  http://www.the-raceplace.com/BEAST-Elite-Tune-Package-p/3040.htm

Some won't agree, butt I have found the Jaws Of The BEAST to be a fine vice.  It's what you see me working with in my videos.

 

Here is why I like the BEAST vice in a video.

post #4 of 7

@Creynolds

 

Kevin is right, when planning on doing you own tuning, diamond stones are excellent for sharpening, however I would recommend a few things.

 

Do not use diamond stones without a proper side edge bevel guide -- with a clamp to hold the stone secure -- unless you are SKILLED with that tool and are able to make sure not to roll the edge over. That means using a diamond stone CAN result in screwing up the edge by removing the tip of the beveled edge which is known as "rolling the edge over" and is a mistake that is easier to do than you would think. Once rolled over the edge will not hold on hard snow, it can be fixed with a file, but the message is to be careful and use a guide if you are not sure you know what you are doing.

 

If you have a 2 degree side edge, which is fairly standard, use a 2 degree side edge bevel guide with the diamond stone secured by a clamp. If you have a 1 degree or 3 degree then use the same degree side edge bevel as your guide.

 

There are 4 basic types of stones available and here is a description of what each is best at when using them on your edges.

 

1) Oxide stone (pocket stone) used to remove burrs and/or rough polish (many grits available), yes you can use a $60 diamond stone, but removing burrs with a diamond wears the tool down, so I recommend removing burrs with a $5 oxide pocket stone.

 

2) Diamond Stones are used to sharpen (many grits available), competitors sometimes go from a 100-200 grit down to a 1000 grit.

 

3) Ceramic Stones are used to harden the edge after using files or diamond stones which soften the edge (many grits available)

 

4) Gummi Stones are used to "break the edge" which is removing the micro hang-burr that results from using any tool that cuts and softens the edge, such as a file or diamond stone

 

For selecting your set of tools, Race Place is an excellent choice as they design their own tools and are experts at recommending the tools you would need for any level of skill.

 

http://www.the-raceplace.com/

 

Happy Gliding!

post #5 of 7

^ I'll second all that from Tom as well.  Very nice advice indeed!

post #6 of 7

I would like to say that you should build your bench and get a vice ASAP. The simple action of securing the ski so you can smoothly file with both hands really matters. You can then create the controlled file strokes for an even edge. Also speeds up the scraping and buffing after waxing. There are many suppliers for your tools Tognar,Racewerks,Archtechski and yes they do run sales this time of year. I enjoy working on the skis myself and by doing so we are on tuned waxed skis every trip getting the most the ski has to offer

post #7 of 7

Just ordered Swix Tbar vises from Sierra Trading Post on sale for $35  Actually plan to use them as secondary vises

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