- 508 Posts. Joined 9/2006
- Select All Posts By This User
Related Forum Threads
- Family’s First Time at Mammoth Mountain February 24-26th, 2017 Last post on 3/2/17 at 9:12pm in Trip Reports
- Early April Skiing with Kids? [a Family Skiing thread] Last post on 2/2/16 at 3:32pm in Family Skiing Discussions
- Trip to Monarch for the Young and Young at Heart Last post on 3/6/17 at 9:30am in Trip Reports
- Family Trip to Whistler Feb 17 Last post on 3/5/17 at 6:43pm in Trip Reports
- Trip to Stratton VT planned for this weekend and the weather looks rainy / awful. Last post on 2/28/17 at 7:18am in Resorts, Conditions & Travel
2016/17 Multi-Pass Options
Last edited: 10/24/16
- Mammoth Mountain, Eastern Sierra, CALast edited: 1/31/16
- Money And Time Saving Tips For Parents Of Young SkiersLast edited: 4/20/11
- How To Plan A Family Ski VacationLast edited: 9/7/14
I created this account specifically to provide my review of KneeBinding. My hope is that I can help others to learn from my experience. My KneeBinding's were given to me as...
DO NOT GO if you are not advanced --- while I've been skiing for 15 years and am advanced-intermediate, this place scared me. There are NO runs I felt comfortable or easy, especially off the...
This is the most incredibly over-the-top country-club-like resort we've been and we've skied all over USA. It's so cool I took pictures of the bathrooms! Beautifully done. Three gondolas keep...
I went to Maverick the day after a day at Big Sky and what a dramatic difference. As opposed to Big Sky's massive area (which seemed to me to ski much smaller than its size), hard skier packed...
Easily the best hill (let's not get crazy calling these mountains) in Minnesota. It's fairly spread out across four separate hills (though, I'd call them two). There's a gondola that connects the...
Spring Break -- when is it? - Page 2post #31 of 3712/11/15 at 3:29pmWhat's the deal with Presidents Day weekend? When I lived in CO the whole world showed up to ski. Here in MI its only a holiday for banks & the post office...
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #32 of 3712/11/15 at 3:59pmQuote:
I know New York schools have a mid-winter break the week after Pres. Day. My daughter's elementary school in NC adds a day so Pres. Day means a 4-day weekend (Sat-Tue). Perhaps some schools within driving distance of Colorado ski areas also add days that week?
I've met families in the ski lodge who drove south from NYC to Massanutten for a little snowsports and indoor water park fun that week. One time I asked one family why they drove south instead of north. The answer was that although they enjoyed skiing and snow, the idea of being somewhere a little warmer than VT was appealing. The kids were relatively young and no one in the family was better than an intermediate skier.post #33 of 3712/15/15 at 2:35pmThread StarterQuote:
Yeah, here generally only the kids and public employees have Prez Day off. I don't know about banks, but not very many private sector places have the day off anymore. When MLK Day was established, for the first few years everyone had both MLK and Prez days off from work. But gradually most private sector places eliminated Prez Day as a holiday.
To everyone who posted on my initial question regarding spring break -- thanks! Sounds like I don't really need to worry about an onslaught of grade school kids and juked-up HS-ers that week -- whether we go skiing East or West.post #34 of 3712/15/15 at 2:51pm
What I've noticed is that several destination resorts that have special lesson options for teens during holiday periods offer them the entire week after Pres. Day. Presumably that's because many families show up then. Includes Vail, Alta, Deer Valley, and Park City.post #35 of 3712/26/15 at 11:42amQuote:Originally Posted by JoeUT
Spring Break is way overblown in my experience. Colleges have spring breaks at different times, mostly throughout all of March. Went to killington twice on my college spring break (early to mid March) with no issues years ago. Have never noticed much spring break crowding here or in Steamboat, though people talk about the mythical phenomenon. K through 12 break was always around Easter for me, if at all, But when Easter is in late March, a lot of the tourist hordes have hung up the skis.
Christmas is the big one, then Presidents Day. Otherwise, just go ski. If you try to plan around those plus spring break (basically all of March), you'll never ski!!
+1 Here's some data from a Kottke Report to back up the above:
2012-13 Kottke Skier Visits for all US Ski Areas > 12,000 Vertical Transport Feet
Time Days Pct Pct/Day
Up to Dec. 21 28 9% 0.32%
Dec. 22 - Jan. 6 16 16% 1.00%
Jan. 7 - Feb. 18 43 39% 0.91%
Feb. 19 - Mar. 24 34 27% 0.79%
Mar. 25 and Later 17 9% 0.53%
Total 138 100% 0.72%
Note that there are fewer skiers/day during the Feb. 19 - Mar. 24 period than Jan. 7 - Feb. 18. President's Day was Feb. 18, so the holiday weekend is in the early group but the rest of President's Week is in the later group.
I would have liked the date splits to be a bit more granular but this is the data we have to live with. Dec. 26-31 should have been split out to show the holiday peak effect more clearly. I've always shared the view that spring breaks are spread out, and the data above shows that once you aggregate the big resorts at the national level you can't see any effect from spring breaks.
The lesson to be learned here is that spring break crowd effects are strictly a regional/local phenomenon. Texas spring break may slam NM and Wolf Creek and bump Summit County some, but its effect upon UT, CA, Northern Rockies, western Canada is probably negligible.
My avid skiing son in K-12 had a fixed spring break of the week containing April 1, and in college it was one week earlier than that. Out of ~15 spring break vacations, the only one where I saw extreme crowds was at Whistler, which was a perfect storm for crowd generation:
1) B.C. spring break
2) Easter Week
3) 33 inches of new snow after a 6 week drought with poor skiing
Fortunately we were in an Extremely Canadian clinic with line cutting for the first two days of that feeding frenzy. I've been at Whistler during two other spring break weeks with minimal crowd issues.
Most CA public K-12 schools get Easter Week. Maybe you see some more people at Mammoth/Tahoe that week, but at other destination resorts overall skier traffic is on the decline by then. The exception is Vail with its Latin American visitors.post #36 of 371/21/16 at 8:09pmpost #37 of 372/8/16 at 10:22amThread Starter
- Spring Break -- when is it?
- Mammoth Mountain, Eastern Sierra, CA
- › Bump turn on flats 16 minutes ago
- › NorthEast One Ski Do It All... Does It Exist? 20 minutes ago
- › Big Bear 2016-2017 34 minutes ago
- › Summit County, 3/30 - 4/1 49 minutes ago
- › When Couldn't You Keep Up? [- a Family Skiing topic] 52 minutes ago
- › 2016 / 17 Tahoe Weather, Discussion & Stoke 58 minutes ago
- › The Season of Pow - The Indian Himalayas, Gulmarg 2017 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
- › 2016-17 Colorado Weather Discussion 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
- › Should I be conservative or go for the better one? 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
- › Mikaela Shiffrin Training 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
- › Kneebinding Knee Friendly Binding by barunrm
- › Snowbird by MBrady
- › Snowbasin by MBrady
- › Maverick Mountain by Roadrash
- › Lutsen Mountains by comfortstarr
- › Tremblant by jzmtl
- › Panorama Mountain Village by Pacobillie
- › 1988 Salomon SX91 Equipe by vieuxcrouton
- › Mt. Baker by jhkc
- › Manning Park Resort by davidykay
- › 1000 Shuffles
- › Skate to shape drill
- › 2018 Blizzard Black Pearl 88 and 98...
- › 2018 Nordica Navigator 90 Ski Review
- › 2018 Volkl Kanjo Ski Review
- › 2018 Blizzard Women's Sheeva 10 Review
- › 2018 Blizzard Bonafide Ski Review
- › 2018 Blizzard Ski Preview
- › Fan Traverse Drill
- › Complete Ski Packages - Skip the Rental Line!