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What's the deal with Presidents Day weekend? When I lived in CO the whole world showed up to ski. Here in MI its only a holiday for banks & the post office...
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What's the deal with Presidents Day weekend? When I lived in CO the whole world showed up to ski. Here in MI its only a holiday for banks & the post office...


I know New York schools have a mid-winter break the week after Pres. Day.  My daughter's elementary school in NC adds a day so Pres. Day means a 4-day weekend (Sat-Tue).  Perhaps some schools within driving distance of Colorado ski areas also add days that week?

 

I've met families in the ski lodge who drove south from NYC to Massanutten for a little snowsports and indoor water park fun that week.  One time I asked one family why they drove south instead of north.  The answer was that although they enjoyed skiing and snow, the idea of being somewhere a little warmer than VT was appealing.  The kids were relatively young and no one in the family was better than an intermediate skier.

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What's the deal with Presidents Day weekend? When I lived in CO the whole world showed up to ski. Here in MI its only a holiday for banks & the post office...

 

Yeah, here generally only the kids and public employees have Prez Day off.  I don't know about banks, but not very many private sector places have the day off anymore.  When MLK Day was established, for the first few years everyone had both MLK and Prez days off from work. But gradually most private sector places eliminated Prez Day as a holiday.

 

To everyone who posted on my initial question regarding spring break -- thanks!  Sounds like I don't really need to worry about an onslaught of grade school kids and juked-up HS-ers that week -- whether we go skiing East or West.

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What I've noticed is that several destination resorts that have special lesson options for teens during holiday periods offer them the entire week after Pres. Day.  Presumably that's because many families show up then.  Includes Vail, Alta, Deer Valley, and Park City.

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Spring Break is way overblown in my experience. Colleges have spring breaks at different times, mostly throughout all of March. Went to killington twice on my college spring break (early to mid March) with no issues years ago. Have never noticed much spring break crowding here or in Steamboat, though people talk about the mythical phenomenon. K through 12 break was always around Easter for me, if at all, But when Easter is in late March, a lot of the tourist hordes have hung up the skis.

Christmas is the big one, then Presidents Day. Otherwise, just go ski. If you try to plan around those plus spring break (basically all of March), you'll never ski!!


+1  Here's some data from a Kottke Report to back up the above:

 

2012-13 Kottke Skier Visits for all US Ski Areas > 12,000 Vertical Transport Feet

Time                 Days    Pct      Pct/Day

Up to Dec. 21      28      9%     0.32%

Dec. 22 - Jan. 6  16      16%    1.00%

Jan. 7 - Feb. 18   43      39%    0.91%

Feb. 19 - Mar. 24  34     27%    0.79%

Mar. 25 and Later  17      9%    0.53%

    Total                138   100%    0.72%

 

Note that there are fewer skiers/day during the Feb. 19 - Mar. 24 period than Jan. 7 - Feb. 18.  President's Day was Feb. 18, so the holiday weekend is in the early group but the rest of President's Week is in the later group.

 

I would have liked the date splits to be a bit more granular but this is the data we have to live with. Dec. 26-31 should have been split out to show the holiday peak effect more clearly.  I've always shared the view that spring breaks are spread out, and the data above shows that once you aggregate the big resorts at the national level you can't see any effect from spring breaks.

 

The lesson to be learned here is that spring break crowd effects are strictly a regional/local phenomenon.   Texas spring break may slam NM and Wolf Creek and bump Summit County some, but its effect upon UT, CA, Northern Rockies, western Canada is probably negligible.

 

My avid skiing son in K-12 had a fixed spring break of the week containing April 1, and in college it was one week earlier than that.  Out of ~15 spring break vacations, the only one where I saw extreme crowds was at Whistler, which was a perfect storm for crowd generation:

1) B.C. spring break

2) Easter Week

3) 33 inches of new snow after a 6 week drought with poor skiing

Fortunately we were in an Extremely Canadian clinic with line cutting for the first two days of that feeding frenzy.  I've been at Whistler during two other spring break weeks with minimal crowd issues.

 

Most CA public K-12 schools get Easter Week.  Maybe you see some more people at Mammoth/Tahoe that week, but at other destination resorts overall skier traffic is on the decline by then.  The exception is Vail with its Latin American visitors.

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Bump . . . for those who haven't made 2016 spring break plans yet.

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Bump . . . for those who haven't made 2016 spring break plans yet.


 We made our plans:  Mammoth!

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