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Superfeet Carbon Insoles too painful to ski

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I recently upgraded from my older model Superfeet insoles (which I loved) to the brands latest insole, the Carbon. These are custom molded to your foot using a heater and laser alignment and said to reduce foot movement by 90% (the old insoles only prevented it by 40%).

 

I skied two runs with the Carbons and my arches, soles and basically the entire bottom of my foot hurt to the point of having to call it a day. I got some foot tingles as well. Currently, I'm back on my old insoles and wearing the Carbons in my shoes in hopes they will break in. Has anyone had this experience with these foot beds? Is it the actual insole that's the problem, or does it take time for the foot to adjust to the new position? 

 

Here is the product: http://www.superfeet.com/en-us/insoles-and-sandals/carbon

post #2 of 13

The footbed might mold more with time, and your foot might get use to the footbed as well.

 

if the old one was working for you, why did you change to the new one?

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

I'd read somewhere that insoles should be replaced every couple years depending on how much you ski. These seemed like a nice upgrade. 

post #4 of 13

give it a few more days,   then go back to old ones.

post #5 of 13

New ones won't mold any more than the old ones did.  No idea where the 40 and 90% you are quoting came from, I've never heard quotes like that for footbeds from anyone,  but if it is real it is the source of your problem.  Feet must pronate inside boots and when it is prevented by supporting the arch then arch cramps are inevitable.  This was a problem with old improperly moulded and built Superfeet and if the person making the news ones is trying to reduce or eliminate pronation by using to much arch support it is bound to hurt.  A lot!

 

Take them back.

 

Lou

post #6 of 13

we sell a lot of the new carbon custom product and have not had many problems with it at all, contrary to what Lou is saying the product cannot force up into the arch to stop pronation and as it was built on the fit pod that is unlikely to be the problem.

 

the 40% /90% figures are a comment which comes up a bit, it is related to the maximum amount of elongation that the product can "stop"  ( i prefer control but stop is the word being used)   ie a trim to fit product can reduce elongation by 40% the custom products by up to 90% pronation is a motion elongation is one of the parts of that motion, All Superfeet product works by controlling rearfoot motion NOT jamming a support under the arch

 

the link you have provided is for the trim to fit carbon, the product you are using is custom carbon winter by the description of the moulding process 

 

was this your first day skiing of the season?

what was the previous product colour?

how old are the boots in terms of days skiing?

how was the snow surface?

 

there are a few reasons why you could be getting the issues, if you can answer the above i may be able to give you more a accurate reasoning

post #7 of 13
Have your fitter assess the windless aspect of your feet.. This can help determine how much support your feet can handle.. What was your old insole? Trim to fit or custom superfeet?
post #8 of 13

custom footbeds are only as good as the the individual that is sitting in front of you and assessing your foot and building the device....

 

when skiers write into this forum and say that they have superfeet custom, instaprint, sidas, dfp, etc, they are stating the brand like it builds itself and that no matter where you go to get one they have the same personality and work the same. That is a silly concept...

 

the custom footbed can only be as good as the idiot that built it...some idiots are better than others :)

 

then again from a boot fitters perspective some customers could not feel the difference between a well made footbed and a broom handle or a golf ball underneath their foot :cool 

 

good luck

 

jim

post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CEM View Post
 

we sell a lot of the new carbon custom product and have not had many problems with it at all, contrary to what Lou is saying the product cannot force up into the arch to stop pronation and as it was built on the fit pod that is unlikely to be the problem.

 

the 40% /90% figures are a comment which comes up a bit, it is related to the maximum amount of elongation that the product can "stop"  ( i prefer control but stop is the word being used)   ie a trim to fit product can reduce elongation by 40% the custom products by up to 90% pronation is a motion elongation is one of the parts of that motion, All Superfeet product works by controlling rearfoot motion NOT jamming a support under the arch

 

the link you have provided is for the trim to fit carbon, the product you are using is custom carbon winter by the description of the moulding process 

 

was this your first day skiing of the season?

what was the previous product colour?

how old are the boots in terms of days skiing?

how was the snow surface?

 

there are a few reasons why you could be getting the issues, if you can answer the above i may be able to give you more a accurate reasoning

 

The Carbons I have are red, so I think they are the custom carbon winter as you mentioned. To answer your questions...

 

was this your first day skiing of the season? No, I'd been out a few days on my old green superfeet insoles with no problems.

what was the previous product colour? green 

how old are the boots in terms of days skiing? this is the second season on my boots. 

how was the snow surface? groomers and small bumps. 

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Born2Schuss View Post
 

 

The Carbons I have are red, so I think they are the custom carbon winter as you mentioned. To answer your questions...

 

was this your first day skiing of the season? No, I'd been out a few days on my old green superfeet insoles with no problems.

what was the previous product colour? green 

how old are the boots in terms of days skiing? this is the second season on my boots. 

how was the snow surface? groomers and small bumps. 

yes you have the custom carbon winter

 

i would give it a couple of days and see if things settle down, it could be just because it is new and you have never had that type of support and your feet need a while to get used to it...... it is a slightly different volume to the old green and fills the voids under the foot differently, so give it a little bit of time and see if all is good, if not get back to the fitter and have them assess the foot again to see why things are not working out

 

as Jim said it is not about the brand, it is about the person fitting it and selecting the best brand/product for YOU and the boots you are in

post #11 of 13

simple but maybe rhetorical question. When you say old Superfeet you are talking about the Green cork customs, not the green cut to fit off the shelf version.

post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 

I have the cut to fit ones right off the shelf

post #13 of 13

Thanks for that info.

 

Sounds like the Carbon's may be a bit too stiff for your feet. The older Superfeet Kork were pretty firm. The cut to fits will give quite a bit.

 

Generally Carbon will not "break in" much. If they "break in"  they are probably broken. go back and talk to your fitter to see if they can assist you with this. The more experienced fitters here can probably answer better but it sounds like a tight "windlass" may be part of the problem?

 

DC

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