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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

Hoping someone can help me out.

 

We moved into a new house and I don't have a space to tune our skis.  My options are our unheated garage or our laundry room.    The laundry room is going to have to do until the garage gets insulated and a heater installed next summer...   

 

My laundry room is pretty small.  The only space in there that would work is on top of our chest freezer.   It's a smaller unit and it sits directly against a wall that has exposed studs to access wiring.

 

Any ideas on how to clamp my skis down either to the freezer (it's already somewhat beat up) or something that is attached to the wall studs?  Maybe some 2 X 4's with a vice on them that swings down from the wall?  

post #2 of 22

I built this "tuning tray" that has my vices attached and catches shavings.

It bolts to my workbench during the season.

You could make something like this that fits over your freezer.

 

post #3 of 22
It would probably help to post a picture. Not that I have any ideas other than collapsible bench, which is what I use. Then you can move it around until you find what works. Pegboard helps you by supplying a place for shelving or other methods and saves room and adds that take-down-and-use-it-for-something-else ability.

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 

I'm thinking maybe I could mount 2 X 2's to a piece of plywood so it sort of slides over the top of the freezer.  The 2x2's would help hold it on there but I'd still need something to hold the whole bench down onto the freeze for scrapping so it doesn't fall off.

 

Maybe I could put some eye hooks in the 2x2's and then run a piece of rope or bungy cord under the freezer?   Or they could bungy to hooks I mount into the walls 2X4's down near the floor.

 

Wouldn't be hard at all.  I think I have most of what I'd need already.   


Bonus: We have a cement floor in that room and a garbage can on the floor next to the freezer for catching the wax shavings...

post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by dakine View Post
 

I built this "tuning tray" that has my vices attached and catches shavings.

It bolts to my workbench during the season.

You could make something like this that fits over your freezer.

 

 

I'm sure I'm showing my lack of ski tuning knowledge, but is that some kind of tape on the bottom of your skis @dakine? What is the purpose?

post #6 of 22

Base Tape protects the bases while you are working on the edges.

It keeps filings, and grit off the ptex.

Get it at Artech, Racewax, Reliable or others.

post #7 of 22
I bought some, it's free to a good home that doesn't require me to ship it. That is, if Fuller or Slow Obstacle or Alpenglow or Phlox or Focker want it, they have only to tell me.

More trouble than it's worth trying to get wrinkles out, etc. so the guide runs smoothly. I'm sure after ten rolls I'd have the technique down, but I just use a paintbrush after every swipe of the file or stone. Probably save a half hour per ski.
post #8 of 22

Saw this product - than made my own version using basic design.

 

http://www.eggbarvise.com/products/the-original-race-eggbar-vise-with-aluminum-tracks

 

One advantage they can be mounted on a 2X8 that sits on the top of flat surface/rubber mat to keep from sliding.

post #9 of 22

what's wrong with a cold garage. Works for me.

post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 

Well, first off it's pretty damn cold to just stand there for 2 hours.   Also, I've heard it's best to wax in a warmer room as if it's really cold the bases don't absorb the wax as well and it cools to quickly...   Who knows though as I've never tried.   I do have a small heater I can run out there, but it's a big garage...

post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

what's wrong with a cold garage. Works for me.

Some of us must run hotter than others. I use the utility room, with the problem that sometimes I'm shedding layers because it's so toasty. On the other hand, if I shut the door, it's a hot box. biggrin.gif
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by focker View Post

Hoping someone can help me out.

We moved into a new house and I don't have a space to tune our skis.  My options are our unheated garage or our laundry room.    The laundry room is going to have to do until the garage gets insulated and a heater installed next summer...   

My laundry room is pretty small.  The only space in there that would work is on top of our chest freezer.   It's a smaller unit and it sits directly against a wall that has exposed studs to access wiring.

Any ideas on how to clamp my skis down either to the freezer (it's already somewhat beat up) or something that is attached to the wall studs?  Maybe some 2 X 4's with a vice on them that swings down from the wall?  

Hi, I built my own tunning table and vice. You could use the same design of the my vice blocks and either screw them to a table like mine or maybe screw them to the 2X4 studs so that the slots where the skies go are facing up

post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 

I was able to move the freezer to one side by about a foot, and I'm going to build a small table that site next to it onto which my vice can be mounted as needed.

 

Half of the ski will likely hang over the freezer, but that's ok.  Shouldn't be too hard to build and cheap as well.  Already have my vice and the wood.

post #14 of 22

My .02 - give some thought to where all that wax is going to go.  The table I built is basically a big trough so that the wax scrapings don't get all over the floor.  Wax scrapings on concrete means people slipping and falling on their heads after a while.  I couldn't believe how slick some areas of my utility room had gotten even when I shop vac'd up all the scrapings I could see.

 

Mine is a bit weird, but it works for me.

http://www.epicski.com/t/130078/tuning-bench-looking-for-a-picture/30

 

 

I used it in my office last year, now that I renovated it is going out in the back garage this season (assuming it ever snows).  I've got heat out there if I need it, but it stays warm enough most of the time without.

post #15 of 22
Concrete can definitely get slick. I have a rug there, but tape has ceased to keep it from sliding. Was thinking rubber mats of some kind, maybe under the rug? Suggestions that don't cost $50 per square foot?
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 

Wax shavings have never been an issue for me.  I scrape them right into a trash can on each scrape, and sweep the floor when done.   There is an old carpet in that room the covers much of the walking area of the floor as well.  Concrete right under the bench area.

post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Concrete can definitely get slick. I have a rug there, but tape has ceased to keep it from sliding. Was thinking rubber mats of some kind, maybe under the rug? Suggestions that don't cost $50 per square foot?

 

Might try something like this, they work great for keeping our rugs still on a fairly slick bamboo floor.  You can buy them just about anywhere

 

http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-2047247/stylehaven-non-slip-grip-rug-pad.jsp?ci_mcc=ci&utm_campaign=EC%20ACCENT%26AREA%20RUGS&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=google&utm_product=94591045&CID=shopping15&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=94591045&gclid=CjwKEAiAhaqzBRDNltaS0pW5mWgSJADd7cYDqN-wKbY9ta9cl1dqY-xowMU0t5qyK7TwVh-VvFD5rRoCRjfw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIbjxLmp1MkCFU6GaQodQOELMQ

post #18 of 22
That looks like the tape that's not sticking to the floor? Thinking maybe I need to hit the floor with some solvent first.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

That looks like the tape that's not sticking to the floor? Thinking maybe I need to hit the floor with some solvent first.


Its not tape, its a rubberized mat that grips the floor and the rug - it just sits between them.

post #20 of 22

Collapsible bench or a couple sturdy sawhorses with 2x4 across.

 

Of course it depends if you have a nice set of vices or not.

 

I travel with a couple sawhorses when my daughter races just in case the tuning/wax room is too busy or all the benches are already full.

post #21 of 22

I am thinking that you could use pipe clamps cut to the proper length to secure the tray to the freezer. If you use them upside down then the tightening end would not stick up higher than your vise, If you use them right side up then you may need to raise the vise on blocks.

post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by focker View Post
 

Well, first off it's pretty damn cold to just stand there for 2 hours.   Also, I've heard it's best to wax in a warmer room as if it's really cold the bases don't absorb the wax as well and it cools to quickly...   Who knows though as I've never tried.   I do have a small heater I can run out there, but it's a big garage...

 

Run the iron on the bases longer.       Put the skis in the garage before the final scrape and brush of the wax of the day.    

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Originally Posted by tachedub View Post
 

I am thinking that you could use pipe clamps cut to the proper length to secure the tray to the freezer. If you use them upside down then the tightening end would not stick up higher than your vise, If you use them right side up then you may need to raise the vise on blocks.


Have any of you been to IKEA of late?   Allow me to direct your attention to the Stolmen system.       http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ieoAAOSwyTZUYTS0/s-l1600.jpg 

Can be used for anything from bike racks to stereo racks to -    tuning benches.
 

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