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Brahma, Kastle FX85HP or other?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Hi,

    My MX88s have finally given out after 200 days of use (they had a fatal edge catastrophe) so I'm looking for a replacement. When I bought the MX88s, they were my only ski but I now own a pair of Atomic Cheater GS skis (174cm) for occasional racing/hard days + a pair of MX98s for softer+powder days. I'm looking to replace the MX88 with something in the 83-88cm range as the ski I use most. What I loved about the MX88 was that there was never a condition where I was unhappy with it - they really did everything competently.

 

   I'm 180lbs, 6'0", 47 years old. I ski 45 days a year at Whistler and used to race (although not well). I'd describe my skiing style as traditional. I do everything from double blacks to moguls to groomers... no trees though.

 

   Observations:

      - The Atomics are lots of fun when it is hard.

      - The MX88s were great in a variety of conditions. My only two complaints: 1.) I wouldn't mind a slightly less GS oriented ski as I I often make short/medium radius turns if it is busy. They require some effort to keep on top of them in moguls - although it is a good workout.

      - The MX98s are great when the snow is soft. The rounded tail is super easy in soft moguls. For my style of skiing, they don't work well when it hardens up (even a bit). In these conditions, they hurt my knees. This is why I have no interest in owning a wider pair of skis.

 

   I considered buying another pair of MX88s, but was hoping for just a bit more forgiveness. So far, I've tried the 180cm Brahma and was impressed. Does anyone think I would enjoy the FX85HP more given the above? Is there anything else I should try? Cost isn't a huge issue (although the Kastle would need to be better for the extra $500CDN)

 

Thanks in Advance

post #2 of 15
Stockli storm rider 88 should be at or near the top of your list. It's a kinder, gentler, MX 88. Not lesser though.
Edited by markojp - 12/9/15 at 6:45am
post #3 of 15

Demo an Elan Amphibio 88? 

I have Brahma's in 180, but they do take a lot of effort to cut tighter radius turns, it's the trade off you have to pay for stability at speed.

 

Elan's have a reputation for being pretty compliant as do Rossis.

post #4 of 15

Although I didn't have a chance to ski the FX 85 HP, I was thoroughly impressed by the FX 95 HP.  I thought it outperformed the Bonafide and Stormrider 95, although I really enjoyed both those skis as well.  If price tag is not a factor, I'd go with the Kastle.  If you want to make it easier on the wallet, the Brahma is a very safe choice.

post #5 of 15
I can vouch for the Salomon X-ride fs 88. It do have a race breed feel to it though, which might not be to your liking. But it is very agreeable inmo to turn at various radies, and you have the mass ...
post #6 of 15

If it helps at all our review of the Kastle FX 95 HP just went live today on our Chairlift Chat blog!  

 

I'll be posting it in the article section here on EpicSki this afternoon, but I thought I'd drop a link here as well:

 

https://www.skiessentials.com/Chairlift-Chat/2016-Kastle-FX-95-HP-Ski-Review

post #7 of 15

I am in the same boat as you. My MX 88 is 4 years old I am looking to replace them.

 

Ski's I am looking at.

 

Smaller than MX 88

1. Kastle MX 83 (Ski of the year announced by realskiers.com)

2. Head i supershape Titan 80 (A+ ski rating by realskiers.com)

 

Similar to MX88

 

1. Stockli 88

2. Volkl Kendo 90 (ski of the year by realskiers.com)

post #8 of 15

Fischer Motive 86 Ti - nimble and happy to make tighter turns when called upon, but powerful enough to rip as well. 

 

Of course there's the new Head Monster 88. I haven't tried it, but word on the street is it's good and might suit your needs. 

post #9 of 15

I am considering similar waisted skis right now as an all mountain and groomer type ski, so will be following with interest. At the moment I'm torn between the Fischer Motive 86 Ti, Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, and Head Monster 88. I think they're all pretty similar skis to the MX88 in design and waist width, but from what I'm reading it sounds like the Monster is the stiffest, followed by the Crimson, with the Motive being the most compliant of the three.

 

Note - this is not from experience, I have yet to ski any of these.

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by SkiBumGolfer View Post

I am considering similar waisted skis right now as an all mountain and groomer type ski, so will be following with interest. At the moment I'm torn between the Fischer Motive 86 Ti, Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, and Head Monster 88. I think they're all pretty similar skis to the MX88 in design and waist width, but from what I'm reading it sounds like the Monster is the stiffest, followed by the Crimson, with the Motive being the most compliant of the three.

Note - this is not from experience, I have yet to ski any of these.

I am extremely interested in these three skis as well, I actually just got back from the ski shop looking at them. I like the look of the atomics best, Fisher will be least expensive. The guy was telling me the Fisher will be more forgiving and better in trees and off piste than the atomics. And easier to turn. But the atomic will be more powerful on the groomers
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by jguck25 View Post


I am extremely interested in these three skis as well, I actually just got back from the ski shop looking at them. I like the look of the atomics best, Fisher will be least expensive. The guy was telling me the Fisher will be more forgiving and better in trees and off piste than the atomics. And easier to turn. But the atomic will be more powerful on the groomers

 

All of that definitely makes me lean Fischer. And cheaper certainly doesn't hurt! Last year's Motives (same ski, they just changed the graphic) are an absolute steal right now.

post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by SHornerVan View Post
 

Hi,

    My MX88s have finally given out after 200 days of use (they had a fatal edge catastrophe) so I'm looking for a replacement. When I bought the MX88s, they were my only ski but I now own a pair of Atomic Cheater GS skis (174cm) for occasional racing/hard days + a pair of MX98s for softer+powder days. I'm looking to replace the MX88 with something in the 83-88cm range as the ski I use most. What I loved about the MX88 was that there was never a condition where I was unhappy with it - they really did everything competently.

 

   I'm 180lbs, 6'0", 47 years old. I ski 45 days a year at Whistler and used to race (although not well). I'd describe my skiing style as traditional. I do everything from double blacks to moguls to groomers... no trees though.

 

   Observations:

      - The Atomics are lots of fun when it is hard.

      - The MX88s were great in a variety of conditions. My only two complaints: 1.) I wouldn't mind a slightly less GS oriented ski as I I often make short/medium radius turns if it is busy. They require some effort to keep on top of them in moguls - although it is a good workout.

      - The MX98s are great when the snow is soft. The rounded tail is super easy in soft moguls. For my style of skiing, they don't work well when it hardens up (even a bit). In these conditions, they hurt my knees. This is why I have no interest in owning a wider pair of skis.

 

   I considered buying another pair of MX88s, but was hoping for just a bit more forgiveness. So far, I've tried the 180cm Brahma and was impressed. Does anyone think I would enjoy the FX85HP more given the above? Is there anything else I should try? Cost isn't a huge issue (although the Kastle would need to be better for the extra $500CDN)

 

Thanks in Advance


If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.    If the MX88 works, why not?  (unless you're looking to experiment).  But, if you're looking for a tighter turn, the MX line also comes in:  MX70, 78 & 83.  Or, there is also the RX -- but that's a different matter.

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone for your responses. 

 

I tried the Brahma 180 on the weekend in great snow at Whistler. It had great float in 12+" of powder and held a good edge on the groomers. Only downside for me was that it seemed a little too much work in the bumps (a bit stiff and non-maneuverable). Nevertheless, I was close to buying it. 

 

I have an opportunity to buy a new FX94 for a great price (less than the Brahma) but can't demo it. Given that the MX88 in 178 was the perfect length, I'm not sure what length I would get (176 seems a little short and 186 seems huge). Does anyone know if the 186 would feel too long?

 

Part of me just wants to buy another MX88... But they are hard to find in Vancouver/Whistler at the moment.

 

Thanks

post #14 of 15

There are lots of comparative comments at Epic on the MX88 vs FX94.

Check out Dawcatching's comments on the Kastle lineup:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/127051/kastle-impressions-over-a-season-mx83-fx84-mx88-fx94

 

FWIW I once rented MX88 178 while at Whistler to see what all the fuss was about, and loved that ski.

But I own FX94 176 and they are an ideal length for me at 5'9" 175. 

 

- Andy

post #15 of 15
If you can, demo the new Atomic Vantage 90 CTi, good edge grip, bit of rocker, good in soft snow, good on groomers, pretty good in bumps.
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