I'll try to sum this up quickly, but I could go on forever. Bottom line, I really like the Head Raptor and have been skiing it for a few years. So much so that I horded a few old pair. However, I've tried and failed twice to perfectly dial in my canting (yes, worked with a very reputable shop... just asking here so I don't have to bug them with lots of questions.)
Here is my bottom line question:
When you put a canted lifter plate on a boot, let's say a 1* plate, and shave the upper of the heel and toe lug does that achieve 1* inward or outward (depending on the shim obviously) from Zero. Or, does it achieve 1* from the previous set up. I think the answer is 1* from true Zero??
That's the rub, I think. I have read, and can also pretty plainly tell from skiing them, that the Raptors are NOT set up at true "zero" out of the box. They very much seem to be canted to the outside. (And, no I don't mean anything to do with the "canting" adjustment on the cuff. I mean the "real" canting - based on the sole angle relative to the rest of the boot.)
Here's the deal in real life. Stock pair with duct tape shims on the AFD to achieve 1/2 "in" works great. Shaved heel and toe lugs with professional installation of a 1/2 degree angled lifter plate to the inside is too much.
I thought I was losing my mind but then it occurred to me, achieving 1/2* with a make shift duct tape shim gets me 1/2 inside from the stock Head set up, not necessary from true "zero." Let's assume for argument's sake the boot comes canted out 1/2* from the factory (maybe a full degree, maybe 2*, I have no idea.) If it starts 1/2 out and I shim it by 1/2 maybe that's all I need.- So a net "zero" stance. If I have a 1/2* plate on it is the net result 1/2 "in" from zero regardless of where the boot started? I think so?
Again, my basic question. Does the professional job with the 1/2* plate get me 1/2 from where I started, or 1/2 from true zero. I think it's the later and I think that's why shimming myself yields a different result.
Generally, with other Nordicas and Tecnicas I have skied for years I haven't really needed canting. Maybe a little bit to the inside with my left leg, which is slightly bowed, but that's it. So, this also supports my hypothesis.
PM me or reply if anyone is interest in working through this with me or has a short answer to my question!