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Rec. Please: Midfats for Intermediate Women

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I know Christmas is still more than a week away, but I have decided to turn over a new leaf and start my shopping early this year. To do that, though, I am going to need your help.

I am looking for recommendations for intermediate level midfat (70-73 waste) skis for my wife and daughter. We ski more in the Rockies than anywhere else, and so performance on soft and cut up snow is more important than hard pack perf.

Recommendations?
thanks
JW
post #2 of 20
I have learned NOT to use fat or midfat and woman in the same sentence.
post #3 of 20
very wise Phil ...

I'd recommend a demo of the K2 T9x. Really a nice ski. My wife loves 'em. Takes in anywhere. trees, hardpack, bunmps as well as a mid-fat can be expected to. It's pretty shapely so it comes around easily although not to the point of feeling nervous. Her's are the '02 model year. I'm not sure if K2 changed the name or not.
post #4 of 20
A ski to consider is the Salomon 1080. It has an 80mm waist but is much more nimble than you would think a ski that wide would be. The 1080's off-piste performance is really good and they are a fun ski to carve on except at high speeds and on real hard snow. My 21 year old daughter (who is attending MSU) is on 1080s and absolutely loves them. She is an advance intermediate skier.

Besides the 1080s, look into the K2 T-9 X which is the female version of the Axis X and the K2 T-9 Spire which is the female version of the K2 5500, K2's perennial bang-for-your-buck bargain.
post #5 of 20
Rio, any input from your daughter about 1080's in bumps?
My wife loves the bumps and it is getting time for a
wider versatile ski. What size is the young'un using?
Thanks.
post #6 of 20
Not to turn this into a forum on the Salomon 1080s, but I too was wondering how they were as an all-mountain ski. Last weekend I was at Snowshoe and we got 5" of powder overnight. I was in heaven, but my girlfriend who was on Salomon Minimax snowblades couldn't have had it worse. For context, she used to ski old straight 180cm K2s and after knee surgery was concerned about hurting her knee again. After borrowing a friends snowblades, she was hooked. While they will serve her well 90% of the time on the eastern ice we ski on, they obviously suck for powder. So, after this ramble, how would 160cm 1080s be as an all-mountain/powder/crud ski? Also, being a twin-tip, how short do they ski (i.e. a 180cm feels like a 175cm)? Thanks for your input.
post #7 of 20
Take a look at the Volant Vertex 71. I bought a pair for my (very lightweight) teen aged son, and he loves them
post #8 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by dp:
Take a look at the Volant Vertex 71. I bought a pair for my (very lightweight) teen aged son, and he loves them
surprise.. my suggestion too. : [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #9 of 20
My daughter uses her 1080s as her all-mountain ski. She is 21, 5' 6" and an appropriate weight for her height. Her skills are advance-intermediate with her mogul skills probably approaching expert (nothing like learning to ski on a short steep mountain....Mt. Ashland). She loves the 1080s in all conditions but I should note that she doesn't do ice. She has the 161cm version.
post #10 of 20
Since you're writing from PA, I thought another 2 cents worth on the 1080 wouldn't hurt... My wife (5'4", 112 lbs) has the 1080 in 161 cm. We ski mostly in the Northeast (New Hampshire). She uses the 1080 for our trips west (2 this season) and for those extra good snow days here. She loves them off piste and in the bumps in those conditions. They're light and fun, and very quick for a fat ski. This may be all you need to hear since you say most of your skiing happens in the West...

Now here's the 'but': it is my wife's second ski. The very qualities (soft, wide), that make the 1080 so enjoyable in the conditions described above, are those that make the ski perform LESS satisfactorily on hard and icey surfaces. She prefers a shorty slalom on most days since ice/hardpack is very often a significant part of Eastern conditions.

If my wife and I were thinking in terms of 1 ski (for her) to cover all bases - even if most were in the West - we would probably choose a midfat like the Head iM 75 Chip or iM 70 Railflex (156 cm), or Salomon Scream 10 Pilot Hot (155 cm), or perhaps the Dynastar 71 (157 cm).

We would also say that this concern should only apply to adults - kids will find such joy in a twintip like the 1080, that the trade offs are hardly worth a thought.

Happy trails!

[ December 18, 2003, 05:23 AM: Message edited by: bearberry ]
post #11 of 20
I'd like to hear Physics Man's input on this. I believe power input (factors of weight and height of skier) to surface area is a significant issue. I was talking to a lady yesterday who was 4'10" and 85# wanted a midfat. God help me I just couldn't see her making a 140 Volkl EnergY Gamma sink into soft snow. I also could see her struggling to get any 7 24 Gamma on edge when skiing hard snow. We also considered many other skis for her but those two really make the point.

Thank you,
Aaron
post #12 of 20
>>> I have learned NOT to use fat or midfat and woman in the same sentence. <<<

..and you thought all the lessons were in the Technique section! LOL!!

Thanks for the tip!!

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post #13 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by Rio:
Besides the 1080s, look into the K2 T-9 X which is the female version of the Axis X and the K2 T-9 Spire which is the female version of the K2 5500, K2's perennial bang-for-your-buck bargain.
The T-9 Spire is actually closer to the Axis XR. The T-9 Myste is more of the women's version of the Escape 5500. Trust me, I probably spent a solid week in ski shops shopping with my wife. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #14 of 20
crashagain -

You are correct. I wish they would make it easy for us and just call them the T-9 5500.
post #15 of 20
Make sure to check out the Rossi B series, for ladies. May be looking at the B1 and possible the B2.

Look at the Atomic R9 or even the R10.

Head Monster Mi-70, low end Monster, they just get fatter as you go up in number is M i 75, 85.

Salomon Scream 8, very nice ski.

Your daughter may like the 1080's or look at the Rossi Scratch, personally better bang for you buck, cheaper then the 1080's, and what I have heard, more durable then the 1080's.

Can't provide you info on other lines, store I work at is small and the above brands is all we carry.

Good luck.
post #16 of 20
All of the ski's mentioned in the above postings are good product. I've personally been on the Rossi B1W this year & as a lady instructor this is my first pair of ladies specific ski's. I personally feel they flex & hold turns better than the K2, also much lighter.
post #17 of 20
I bought a pair of Rossi XX (160) for my wife (180 cm, 60 Kg) and she is extremely happy and fast. She demoed and did not enjoy the 1080 a lot. If XX can not be found anymore, B1 or B2 are probably a good pick.
post #18 of 20
Take a look at the Volkl 7/24 AX2 or AX3 gamma. My Wife (advanced intermediate) demoed 163 cm AX3's yesterday at Northstar and liked them so much that we bought a pair. Previous ski was unisex Volkl G20 in a 170 length. AX3's were softer, turned better at speed and in the mogels, and were every bit as stable as the 170s. I had fun trying to keep up with her ! Good luck, rickp
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
thanks for all of the great suggestions
guess its time to head down to Ye Olde ski & Board shoppe and start my Christmas shopping
post #20 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by powdermama:
All of the ski's mentioned in the above postings are good product. I've personally been on the Rossi B1W this year & as a lady instructor this is my first pair of ladies specific ski's. I personally feel they flex & hold turns better than the K2, also much lighter.
The truth is that the B1W, B2W, and B3W are all identical to their non-W counterparts. The only difference being the topsheet graphics. On the W series skis the graphic of the center is shifted forward, however if you look at the shapes they are identical. Therefore the only thing making your skis womens specific is where you mounted the bindings.
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