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Patagonia Powslayer vs. Powder Bowl

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Trying to decide between these two jackets for resort skiing.  Can't really tell why the Powslayer costs $300 more so wondering if anybody has any experience comparing the two.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 12

Steeze?   Patagonia stuff is usually pretty good.

post #3 of 12

Different materials. Powslayer is gore pro 3 layer- super light and super burly. Pretty sure the powder bowl is two layer gore with a mesh liner sewn in the backing. If you have handled the jackets the materials feel much different. But both will still work great, its just that the powslayer is set up as Patagucci's most premium high end ski hardshell. Hence the big $

post #4 of 12
I've got the powder bowl jacket and its really nice. It's a good weight with all the features you'd expect from a ski jacket.
post #5 of 12

I had a powder bowl jacket a few years ago. It was high quality and well built.  But I sold it, didn't care for the fit, just was kinda klunky on me (I have an athletic build, and all of Patagonia's stuff used to be built with guys like me in mind, no so much anymore).

 

I now ski in a sweet Patagonia Northwall jacket.  Polartec Powerstretch Pro: basically waterproof softshell with an R1 liner built in. So much more comfortable than a hardshell, and I have never gotten wet in it.  It is an athletic fit, much better than the Powder Bowl. And it looks new after 3 years.  

 

I am kinda surprised that the advances in softshell technology haven't rendered hardshells obsolete in many cases.  I never wear my hardshell because I constantly overheat when hiking/skinning and it doesn't move very well. I would have to be in a multi-hour downpour for this jacket to get wet.  And I live in Oregon....

 

But yeah, if you need a hardshell, it is pretty hard to go wrong with any of Patagonia's stuff.  

post #6 of 12

Looks like initial question is answered. different material.  Note: You may not want the goretexpro 3layer jacket unless you have a specific need for it.  Just because it's the top of the line doesn't mean it is better for your casual resort skiing.

 

For all of these higher end jackets, you must go with fit as the primary attribute instead of the technology or brand, especially when you're about to spend $300+ on it.  If its a $100-$200 jacket sure, you can compromise.  When you're about to plunk down retail for a $300+ jacket, if it doesn't fit almost perfectly, then it's not the right jacket for you.  

 

Even if you really want to rock a patagonia, and look down on the northface crowd, it may just not be in the cards for your body.

 

I have just gone through this exercise and tried on about 15jackets from a variety of brands, arc, TNF, spyder, columbia, mammut, marmot, patagonia etc etc.  

 

At the retail marmot store, the marmot sales guy helping recognized that I was stuck inbetween sizes.  Said if you're not overjoyed with it, and the fit isn't right, it isn't right.  Suggested I go across the street to TNF or another different brand to just try something else.  He could tell I was looking for something specific as an upgrade to what I have already and not a newbie going skiing for the first time.

 

And so while, I don't really like TNF as a label and fashion; and my Denali fleece from 10years ago feels to me like a poorly cut poncho, the particular jacket it was the only one that seemed to just fit "right" for my stubbier arms and torso size.  So with some reluctancy just on the brand, I have a new TNF nfz jacket ready to try out


Edited by raytseng - 12/2/15 at 7:27pm
post #7 of 12

I totally agree with what Ray said.  Funnily enough I've just been thru a similar process and ended up buying basically the same jacket (TNF NFZ, how's that for TLAs).  Side note: I got the insulated version which bizarrely wasn't stocked by either TNF shop I visited.

 

I have the same problem as dawgcatching with the Patagonia fit.  Their regular fit is too boxy for me, and I end up with a ton of room around the mid section in order to get the length right.  I'm not fully sold on softshell but maybe I was just burnt by one bad experience.  I have a Marmot Zion which is a really nice jacket and very breathable (Polartec Neoshell).  It's mostly windproof but not quite 100% which I found out after being stuck on a chair for 30min during high winds :-)  I dunno, maybe Polartec Powerstretch Pro is better?

post #8 of 12
3l shells are the way to IMO. They last longer, allow you to layer more effectivly, and don't retain moisture.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Ended up going with the Powder Bowl jacket and pants as it seemed more thansufficient for my needs. I fortunately didn't have the same fit problems everybody else mentioned other than being right between a medium and a large (ended up with the large) in the jacket.

Really appreciate all of the responses.
post #10 of 12

congrats, remember to do a good checkout of it, keeping the tags on, and if it's not right return it.

post #11 of 12
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I totally agree with what Ray said.  Funnily enough I've just been thru a similar process and ended up buying basically the same jacket (TNF NFZ, how's that for TLAs).  Side note: I got the insulated version which bizarrely wasn't stocked by either TNF shop I visited.

 

I have the same problem as dawgcatching with the Patagonia fit.  Their regular fit is too boxy for me, and I end up with a ton of room around the mid section in order to get the length right.  I'm not fully sold on softshell but maybe I was just burnt by one bad experience.  I have a Marmot Zion which is a really nice jacket and very breathable (Polartec Neoshell).  It's mostly windproof but not quite 100% which I found out after being stuck on a chair for 30min during high winds :-)  I dunno, maybe Polartec Powerstretch Pro is better?

hey peterm,

On the NFZ, have you found a way to stow the hood?  or is it non-stowable and just hangs around.  

post #12 of 12

I haven't battle tested the jacket yet, but I think the hood just hangs around.  I'm not really a speed demon, so I don't think it'll bother me.  I did note that it fits nicely over my helmet so might come in handy on very cold days.

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