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New boots - "TOO" comfortable, long term concern

post #1 of 7
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Hi everyone,

 I purchased a new pair of boots from my local store, and I have some fitting concerns, before I go back to see what they can do. 

 A bit of background: I measure about 27.5 on my right foot, 28 on my left, about a B+ width (narrow), with relatively high arches but significant pronation when weight bearing. My old boots were Tecnica Inferno Blaze in 28 (325, a bit long, but first pair ever, so I did OK). They served me well, but I was looking for a tighter fit for more control, and the rubber soles to walk around easier (just a personal preference).

 I first got a pair of the Rossi SI130 online, sole 316, last width 97, in 27.5, aiming for a tight fit. I had to return them, because the pressure on the instep made my feet go numb very quickly, seemed like nothing could be done (and I know that the instep area is very hard to adjust). 

 Then did the right thing, went to the local store, and got a pair of last year's Rossi Alltrack Pro 130, also in 27.5 (318, last 100). I first took them home to really take some time trying them on before I know if they are the right fit. Out of the box, they are comfortable! Toes have plenty of wiggle room. When buckled, they fit perfectly! The concern I have is, if they are right on the money now, will they pack out and end up being too big? Right now there is no pressure anywhere, and none of the tightness I would expect in brand new boots. I put the lowest buckle (over the toes) at the tightest setting (which I know is an alarm bell for having too much space). These are much higher volume than I thought I would need, particularly in the toe box. Interestingly, on a shell fit I have MORE room behind the heel than in the old Tecnicas! I can't quite figure out why that is, probably has to do with the geometry. I did try the 26.5 (one size down) in the store, but they were too small, toes stayed slightly curved even on the shell fit! Again, not sure how that can be, when they are supposed to be only 10cm different, yet I get almost an inch behind the heel in one and no space at all in the other. Probably has to do with the geometry and how my foot sits in the two different boots.

 So, the short question after this long text: is there anything that the store might be able to do to bring the boots I have to where I need them to be? Or is this model simply not for me? Alternatively, any experience with this particular model - maybe these don't pack out at all and stay exactly like this? (unlikely). 

 Thank you everyone who took the time to read this long story :)


Edited by rocdoc - 11/30/15 at 7:36am
post #2 of 7

trust your gut instincts...

 

"none of the tightness I would expect in brand new boots" speaks volumes, literally...

 

jim

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks. Yep, that's what I'm afraid of. Any other thoughts?

post #4 of 7

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

read through the above article  (take the boots back)-----don't go by the marked size on the boot, do a "shell check" as described in the article---be fore armed---go to Home Depot and purchase a piece of 1/2 inch CPVC (which is 15mm outside diameter) Cut off a piece about a foot long and take it with you to the ski shop.  Use the pipe as a measuring device by slipping in between the boot and your heel  to determine if the boot is the right size for you---it should be a snug fit but not push your toes into the front of the boot shell..

 

mike

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Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone, and a quick update:

 After talking to my store and learning they don't really carry anything smaller than a 100mm width (except a couple of Full Tilt boots), I ordered a Salomon Ghost 130 online (27.5, 98mm last, medium instep). Interesting boot, I never thought I would like a two buckle boot. The fit is interesting: tighter around the foot, feels very solid, but I'm having a hard time getting it tight around my upper calf. I think it's the placement of the buckle and strap. Anyway, they may do the trick. 

 Interestingly, the guy at the store was telling me that really, the trend is towards wider lasts and more toe room, with just the heel and ankle feeling tightly, and that this roomy comfort i am experiencing is what's expected. Is there any truth to that? Should I keep the Rossi 100 which now feel extremely comfy (I put them on and want to keep them on)? Or should I go with the Ghosts which are tight now, definitely not making me want to keep them on, but no particularly painful spots or quick toes-going-numb sensation, on the assumption that once the pack out they will be the better fit? 

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  Interestingly, the guy at the store was telling me that really, the trend is towards wider lasts and more toe room, with just the heel and ankle feeling tightly, and that this roomy comfort i am experiencing is what's expected

 

time to ship out and find another fitter! sorry let me rephrase that find A fitter

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

:) Thanks. Yep, that was my impression, but as a relative newb I don't want to be too quick to judge - I always assume there is something I don't know. But yeah, time to find a shop where they actually know what they are doing, it sounds like... 

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