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post #31 of 48

Telluride is v tempting, as we have skied Aspen-Snowmass, this mad scramble for next week is very off-putting, ski vacations are meant to be relaxed discovery , the only stress should be reserved for "oh sh-t, cliff dead ahead" type of situation, not this, but what can a human do, only the gods control the snow.

 

WB is a family buddies dream but I am pretty reluctant, been there twice in spring, in glorious powder and glorious spring-freeze-thaw conditions, not sure, now is the right time to go to WB. 

 

Flights to Montrose are a pain but checking, if OP will let us in on their transit secrets to Telluride?

post #32 of 48
The drive from Grand Junction isn't that bad and would give you a lot more flight options.
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The drive from Grand Junction isn't that bad and would give you a lot more flight options.

Agreed
post #34 of 48

We're flying into Montrose, then shuttling over to Telluride next week.  Is Montrose really a pain in the butt?  I know it's an hour and a half or so away (we often fly into Denver and then head to Vail or BC, so don't mind the distance), but we've seen reference to really poor efficiency.  

 

On a more important note, family of 4 staying in mountain village.  Range from lazy solid intermediate (hope wife doesn't read this), strong athletic skier who doesn't have the quick twitch muscles he did 20 years ago, and two teenagers who will ski with us on the groomers until they get bored after lunch and go do their own thing on the bumps and more difficult terrain.  Any suggestions?  For some reason, it's really hard to get a quality idea looking at the available trail maps...Telluride's site has a pretty piss poor one.  

post #35 of 48

Telluride is now running all lifts except for Revelation Bowl.  The Lift 9 area is great terrain but would definitely be more than what your wife is wanting to tackle, but is exactly where your kids will want to go (along with Lift 6 and Gold Hill area).  The easy groomers can be found in the areas of Lifts 4, 5, 10 and 12.  You will have a great time!

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We're flying into Montrose, then shuttling over to Telluride next week.  Is Montrose really a pain in the butt?  I know it's an hour and a half or so away (we often fly into Denver and then head to Vail or BC, so don't mind the distance), but we've seen reference to really poor efficiency.  

 

On a more important note, family of 4 staying in mountain village.  Range from lazy solid intermediate (hope wife doesn't read this), strong athletic skier who doesn't have the quick twitch muscles he did 20 years ago, and two teenagers who will ski with us on the groomers until they get bored after lunch and go do their own thing on the bumps and more difficult terrain.  Any suggestions?  For some reason, it's really hard to get a quality idea looking at the available trail maps...Telluride's site has a pretty piss poor one.  


Montrose..you don't have many options..Telluride airport but apparently landings and take-offs there are iffy.  Our shuttle was terrific.  It hits the village first to drop off people so if you're in the village, good for you..if you're in the town, you have to wait.  On the flip side, village gets picked up first on the way out.  It's an easy drive excepting the last 30 mins depending on the conditions.  Efficiency, in my opinion, wasn't bad.  It really depended on how quickly people got through the airport..but only 3 planes land a day..soo...

 

I don't know what's open right now, but there is something for everyone.  Lof just posted..I'd echo his thoughts..front side is where we spent most of our time (advanced skiers).  The stuff around the village is nice intermediate stuff.  Gold hill was sketchy when we were there but people were on it and it's definitely some nice advanced/expert terrain.  Revelation Bowl is wide open and lots of bumps/ungroomed stuff.  The stuff off to the right, Iron Bowl or whatever it's called, is neat for intermediates/beginners..the terrain is relatively flat and fun through the trees.  We didn't do any hike-to on that side.  Unless you're doing hike-to, advanced skiers would likely find it boring.

 

And of course you can do the hike-to Gold Hill chutes..the snow wasn't great for that when we were there and it's bit out of my comfort zone..your kids mileage may vary.  :D

 

Beautiful place, conditions looks pretty good, have a great time!

post #37 of 48


Thank you!  I guess I should say my wife is fine with most any pitch as long as there is some corduroy on top of it.  With that in mind, still think we should stay away from the 9 and 6 areas?  We like the easy groomers to warm up on, but it's akin to me in a casino.  I spend all of my time looking for the $10 table in blackjack, bet $10 for the first three hands, then move on to much higher amounts.  We search the easy ones to start, but don't mind working a little....

 

Anyway, thanks again for the recommendations.  Strangely not that easy to find information on the type of Telluride terrain that fits our needs, other than an abundance of "its a dream" for our types!  

post #38 of 48
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I guess I should say my wife is fine with most any pitch as long as there is some corduroy on top of it.

 

In that case, there will be at least one run from the tops of Lifts 6 and 9 that will be groomed and should not be missed.  See Forever from the top of the mountain will be a great warm-up run and is easy.  Lookout, Bushwhacker and Plunge are frequently groomed and will be very steep groomers with breath-taking views of the town below and the box canyon all around.

 

http://www.tellurideskiresort.com/the-mountain/snow-report/ is a great resource which shows that the groomers of the day are Coonskin (steep!), Nellie and Sandia.

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Thank you!  I guess I should say my wife is fine with most any pitch as long as there is some corduroy on top of it.  With that in mind, still think we should stay away from the 9 and 6 areas?  We like the easy groomers to warm up on, but it's akin to me in a casino.  I spend all of my time looking for the $10 table in blackjack, bet $10 for the first three hands, then move on to much higher amounts.  We search the easy ones to start, but don't mind working a little....

 

Anyway, thanks again for the recommendations.  Strangely not that easy to find information on the type of Telluride terrain that fits our needs, other than an abundance of "its a dream" for our types!  

Pick up a groomed run map every morning--they have them at the ticket offices. Start off by riding up the Gondola or Lift 7, then skiing down Village Bypass and Lower Boomerang (daily-groomed double-green-circles). Assuming that everyone's feeling ok with that first run, start exploring some of the single-blue-square groomers, and work your way up if you want more of a challenge. The division of trails into their 6 categories is accurate and very helpful for the sort of feeling-your-way-into-it approach you describe.

 

There's really no part of the mountain that should necessarily be avoided, and there's great fun to be found all over. See what you enjoy, and then either spend some time there, or keep exploring to find something you like even more. In cold weather, sometimes the runs can be a little icy until the sun has had a chance to work its magic, so pay attention and try to hit those runs with sunshine in the morning.

 

At least once during your trip, do the extra-long runs... Galloping Goose/Marmot from the top of Lift 12 to Big Billies, and See Forever from the top of Lift 14 to Mountain Village. On the other extreme, Telluride Trail is primarily a cat-track with switchbacks and doesn't tend to be as much fun--it's still likely more fun than taking the gondola/chairlift/bus to get back to your condo, but I don't really recommend it unless you're heading back to town. Everything else on the mountain is fun, and it's well worth exploring around.

post #40 of 48
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The drive from Grand Junction isn't that bad and would give you a lot more flight options.

 

 

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Agreed

 

 

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We're flying into Montrose, then shuttling over to Telluride next week.  Is Montrose really a pain in the butt?  I know it's an hour and a half or so away (we often fly into Denver and then head to Vail or BC, so don't mind the distance), but we've seen reference to really poor efficiency.  

 

On a more important note, family of 4 staying in mountain village.  Range from lazy solid intermediate (hope wife doesn't read this), strong athletic skier who doesn't have the quick twitch muscles he did 20 years ago, and two teenagers who will ski with us on the groomers until they get bored after lunch and go do their own thing on the bumps and more difficult terrain.  Any suggestions?  For some reason, it's really hard to get a quality idea looking at the available trail maps...Telluride's site has a pretty piss poor one.  

Thanks , just weird trying to scramble for a ski vacation at this time, strange days. Info helpful. Are there shuttles from Grand Junction to Telluride ?(Disregard, just found some)

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post #42 of 48
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We're flying into Montrose, then shuttling over to Telluride next week.  Is Montrose really a pain in the butt?  I know it's an hour and a half or so away (we often fly into Denver and then head to Vail or BC, so don't mind the distance), but we've seen reference to really poor efficiency.  

 

On a more important note, family of 4 staying in mountain village.  Range from lazy solid intermediate (hope wife doesn't read this), strong athletic skier who doesn't have the quick twitch muscles he did 20 years ago, and two teenagers who will ski with us on the groomers until they get bored after lunch and go do their own thing on the bumps and more difficult terrain.  Any suggestions?  For some reason, it's really hard to get a quality idea looking at the available trail maps...Telluride's site has a pretty piss poor one.  

 

 

Every lift has a groomer option.

 

The Revelation escape groomer is a cat track down the ridge where you need to maintain momentum to surmount the saddle, not recommended unless the skier is confident. Silver Cloud is likely the softest single black groomer you will find in the country. Majestic is steeper with a dual fall line.  The other ways down the Revvy are currently non-bumped for the time being.  It is a neglected area in flat light for good reason, it gets pretty milky in there.

 

Chair nine the Plunge chair has long runs, parallel to each other, you can ride the Plunge groomed and a bump run alternate can have you sharing your lift ride with your teenagers.

 

Chair 4 and 5 have less bumps and trees but can offer more of the same in blues and greens.  Misty Maiden is a very nice cruiser.

 

Two runs I recommend are Nellie on the chair 11 pod, it is just a nice flowy romp through the woods, single green and Maygirl on chair 12 at double green you can find untracked freshies over green groomers. Momentum preservation skills pay off in the Prospect(chair 12) area.

 

A nice kind of hidden gem is Boomerang bypassing right the way down to chair 5.  PM me if you're looking for more difficult runs.

post #43 of 48
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Hi Dustyfog - We're flying into MTJ and taking a shuttle service to Telluride.  No car rental.  Everyone I talk to says don't bother.  Also, our condo is well located, so really no need.

 

Best,
David

post #44 of 48
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Every lift has a groomer option.

 

The Revelation escape groomer is a cat track down the ridge where you need to maintain momentum to surmount the saddle, not recommended unless the skier is confident. Silver Cloud is likely the softest single black groomer you will find in the country. Majestic is steeper with a dual fall line.  The other ways down the Revvy are currently non-bumped for the time being.  It is a neglected area in flat light for good reason, it gets pretty milky in there.

 

Chair nine the Plunge chair has long runs, parallel to each other, you can ride the Plunge groomed and a bump run alternate can have you sharing your lift ride with your teenagers.

 

Chair 4 and 5 have less bumps and trees but can offer more of the same in blues and greens.  Misty Maiden is a very nice cruiser.

 

Two runs I recommend are Nellie on the chair 11 pod, it is just a nice flowy romp through the woods, single green and Maygirl on chair 12 at double green you can find untracked freshies over green groomers. Momentum preservation skills pay off in the Prospect(chair 12) area.

 

A nice kind of hidden gem is Boomerang bypassing right the way down to chair 5.  PM me if you're looking for more difficult runs.


This is great.  Thanks again.  What are your fave blue, double blue, easy blacks?  Good blue or double blue trees?  We're headed out in 48hrs.  Looks like it is dumping right now from the webcam.

Best,

David

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This is great.  Thanks again.  What are your fave blue, double blue, easy blacks?  Good blue or double blue trees?  We're headed out in 48hrs.  Looks like it is dumping right now from the webcam.

Best,

David

The coverage is the best mid December in years.  

The Polar Queen chair 5 has many double blues with easy glades that are rather short so you don't get in over your head.  Misty Maiden is the best cruiser, Humbolt Draw is a sweet  baby bump line with a cat track runout.  

 

The Plunge is groomed above, lower plunge is bumps.  Bushwacker is a popular steep groomer, it's a long one but I said earlier Silvercloud is likely the softest single black groomer in North America.

post #46 of 48

@dwlighting, so how did you and your son like Telluride?

post #47 of 48
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Telluride was OUTRAGEOUS.  Granted, we had what the locals were calling the best early season conditions ever.  Loved it.  Skiing with terrain as spine tingling as Jackson, plus the marvelous charm of downtown Telluride (great eating).  We'd go back in a second.  And for XMas week we never waited in a liftline longer than 10 minutes, and that was only when it was nuts.  Get up the mountain ride the upper lifts, and even for XMAS week, very reasonable.  Stunning views - everywhere. 

 

Thanks to all in this thread who provided information and tips.

 

Below:

1.  My son standing on the edge of REVELATION BOWL.

2.  Guiseppes - Lunch, outside, at 12k feet.

3.  LOG PILE - off of lift 9.  Delightful glades.

 

 

post #48 of 48

Thanks for coming back and letting us know.  I'm glad to hear you went into the trees at Log Pile...very fun.

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