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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

So I've been searching back through old threads.  Lots of discussion on this topic relating to racing kids, tall/skinny kids etc.  But nothing that really helped me narrow this down for my kid.

 

Is there an approximate height/weight that most manufacturers junior gear is designed up to?  x pounds or so?

 

My 11.5 year old daughter is now 5'4"and 130 pounds.  Foot measures 25cm.  She's catching up with her mother (fast!).  Big for her age and strong legs from ski/mt bike/figure skating.  She's been skiing western resorts (Alberta, BC, MT, ID) since she was a wee little tyke but has never been in a race program.  Lets call her a solid but not expert technical skier.  Smooth skier, goes almost everywhere with confidence, but not an aggressive charger (like her little brother).  Certainly more advanced than the average adult at the hill :)

 

Looking at gear and talking with the shops I'm getting a broad diversity of opinions.  Basically:

-too young for soft adult gear

-too tall and heavy for junior gear

 

Last year she was a bit smaller and was on 24.5 Rossi Fun Girl Junior boots and 145cm Firefly twin tip skis. 

 

Since she's my oldest kid this is new uncharted territory for me: anyone have any good suggestions or advice on navigating gear selections for a pre-teen who is bigger than many teens?

 

Thanks, Bruce

post #2 of 9

Hmm,  she's 4 inches taller and 15 pounds heavier than I was when I started buying skis after becoming an advanced skier not quite ten years ago.  My guess is that she's probably stronger than I was then (about age 50).  I would say look at women's skis that match up with her size and ability, and not worry so much about her age.  For what it's worth, at demo days I generally don't like Volkl or Atomic, and have liked any Rossi.  My all-mountain choice was the Blizzard Black Pearl.  Dynastar, K2, Nordica are usually okay.

post #3 of 9

Regardless of her size, don't lose sight of the fact she is still only 11.5 yrs old.  I'd stick with a junior ski.  Maybe something like a Blizzard Cochise Jr. in a 160 or Volkl Mantra Jr in 158  

post #4 of 9
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Well, after a bunch of boot testing and talking shop with the boot fitters/sales guys we decided on a pair of Rossi Alltracks Jr 80 boots.  At the stiffer end of the junior (non racing boot) line up.  It's a pretty substantial boot compared to the average junior boot.  Last year I could see that her boots were quite soft for her, hopefully this year she won't perceive her boots to be too stiff (I don't think they're too stiff, but there will be some mental & physical adjustment).   For skis I've got a pair of 155cm Fischer Prodigy Jr twintips in the garage.  We'll start with those and switch skis during the season if necessary.  I grabbed a pair of 160cm Rossi Smash 7's.  So if the Fischers feel to soft/short I'll get the Smash 7's mounted and she can try those.

 

Going out to test the gear this weekend.  Fingers crossed she likes her new boots!

 

(side note: many parents around town have the same expression of shock as me: "my kids feet got big! my kid got tall! etc etc etc)

post #5 of 9

That's a tough age for getting new ski gear for her. 

At her size she needs to be on a woman's ski but her strength and growth implies that she should be on a kid ski. 

 

Salomon has a few options in the lower end of the women's line that may work. 

 

I'll think on it a bit.  Meanwhile check in with me and I'll get you a list of good options. 

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That's a tough age for getting new ski gear for her. 

At her size she needs to be on a woman's ski but her strength and growth implies that she should be on a kid ski. 

 

 

 

Very tough indeed and nearly impossible to go strictly off of a ski size chart because even though the size of the OP's daughter is nearly the same as Lara Gut, I doubt they'd ski the same size ski, regardless of what a chart says,  

 

It would certainly help if you knew the individual and what their ability and strength level is but it would be unrealistic to know that of everyone asking for help which is why I tend to err on the side of caution and always push them toward staying in kid or, depending on their age, tweener skis which the Industry has done a good job with listening and adding better skis for young rippers.

 

Treckchick, if you have a better formula, please do tell. Thumbs Up 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

That's a tough age for getting new ski gear for her. 

At her size she needs to be on a woman's ski but her strength and growth implies that she should be on a kid ski. 

 

 

 

Very tough indeed and nearly impossible to go strictly off of a ski size chart because even though the size of the OP's daughter is nearly the same as Lara Gut, I doubt they'd ski the same size ski, regardless of what a chart says,  

 

It would certainly help if you knew the individual and what their ability and strength level is but it would be unrealistic to know that of everyone asking for help which is why I tend to err on the side of caution and always push them toward staying in kid or, depending on their age, tweener skis which the Industry has done a good job with listening and adding better skis for young rippers.

 

Treckchick, if you have a better formula, please do tell. Thumbs Up 


My "formula" isn't a formula as much as a bit of experience selling skis to girls just like this. 

 

Looking for something nimble enough to work for them without diminishing the desire for a "real" ski. 

Two skis I've sold recently to girls like this are Salomon Myriad and Atomic Vantage 85.  Both are really nice women's skis but they're also nimble enough for a lanky pre-teen to ski well. 

post #8 of 9
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My "formula" isn't a formula as much as a bit of experience selling skis to girls just like this. 

 

Looking for something nimble enough to work for them without diminishing the desire for a "real" ski. 

Two skis I've sold recently to girls like this are Salomon Myriad and Atomic Vantage 85.  Both are really nice women's skis but they're also nimble enough for a lanky pre-teen to ski well. 

 

5'4" and 130 lbs doesn't seem lanky to me. My wife is 5'4" and 115 lbs and has a pretty strong athletic build. The OP said the girl is strong and her specs are the size of a fairly average full grown woman. Is it because her bones haven't fully developed at 11 years old that she would still need a junior ski or softer woman's ski?

post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 

Good ideas, thanks!  There's a permanent Salomon demo tent up at the hill.  I'll check to see if they stock the Myriad in her probable size.  

 

The Rossi Alltracks Jr 80 boots were a big success.  In fact we ran out and grabbed the next size up while the store still has them in stock.  It's unlikely the size I got her will last the whole winter.  (Note: I'm not just a rabid boot buyer, her little brother will grow into them soon enough once she's done with them).  The boots certainly are fairly substantial compared to a generic kids boot so a smaller skier and/or less aggressive junior may not like them.  

 

Thanks for the advice.  Cheers!

 

p.s. 'lanky' doesn't really describe her.  Not fat. Tall & solid for her age.  Very strong legs.

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