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tartegnin - I started my 1st adult dev lesson at Liberty this past Sat. and it went well.  In fact, I felt very accomplished.  They put me and another guy in one group w/ 1 instructor (2 : 1), so we got lots of individual attention.  The class took us to the back side of the mtn.: Heavenly, Whitney and Ultra blue trials. We spent the entire day on those blue trials. That was the 1st time I skied on blues at Liberty.  Best of all, I managed them all and did not fall or freaked out.

 

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Our class finished at 3 p.m. but I was wiped out well before then.  The 2nd last run on the blue, I started plowing again because my muscles were tired. I realized I don't ski as well in the afternoons because of muscle fatigue.  

Sounds like quite a good day!  When you can ski any blue trail instead of mostly green with a few easy blues, that's when a ski day becomes a lot of fun.

 

Would you like a few suggestions about exercises that you could consider doing at home?  I thinking about sequences that take 15-20 min.  Working on core strength and balance can be very helpful in the long run.

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Would you like a few suggestions about exercises that you could consider doing at home?  I thinking about sequences that take 15-20 min.  Working on core strength and balance can be very helpful in the long run.


Yes please! I need all the help I can get.  Plus I'd like to do some pre-conditioning before my big WB trip in Feb. Appreciated it!

post #63 of 68
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Would you like a few suggestions about exercises that you could consider doing at home?  I thinking about sequences that take 15-20 min.  Working on core strength and balance can be very helpful in the long run.


Yes please! I need all the help I can get.  Plus I'd like to do some pre-conditioning before my big WB trip in Feb. Appreciated it!


Okay, here are few to get you started.  I do some variation of the Static and Dynamic Balance whenever I'm waiting around.  Improving 1-leg balance takes consistency, but not really any effort.  Some people like yoga, which is certainly good for flexibility and core strength.  Personally I prefer pilates.  Tai Chi is also useful.

 

 

 

post #64 of 68

The way I use poles is to establish a pivot point for my turn, which encourages me to lean into the fall line.  They also help me establish and keep a rhythm.  But to get to where they benefit I think you need to have a good turn and be at a point where you need to tighten it up, and I wouldn't stress rhythm much before that point either.  I also think they can be a crutch that prevents you from learning skills with skis that are valuable, like skating.

post #65 of 68

Pole planting is an advanced ski technique. Its especially useful when skiing steep slopes, moguls, or in the woods. For less experienced skiers poles are most useful when you are moving around flat areas such as at the base. I personally believe that not only kids, but adults should also learn skiing without poles first. Only when they've mastered the feet, legs, hips, core should they begin incorporating pole planting. Simply not holding poles will allow someone to focus on their feet and legs more.

post #66 of 68
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Hi:

As I mentioned in another post months ago that I will be taking my 14-year old nephew to WB for a 6 day ski trip next Feb.  This will be be his 3rd ski trip.  Prior 2 where school organized and he went to switzerland for both trips.  He told me, when he learned skiing, he learned it without poles.  

 

When I told him, the rentals will be including skis, boots and poles.  He became concerned, he asked: "what do I do with the poles?  when I took skiing lessons, we did not use poles."  

With that said, what should we (or he) do (does) when we go to WB?  He will sign up for a day or two of lessons.  But apart from that, should I let him skiing w/o poles?  or make him to carry the poles?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

 

@fosphenytoin : so what did your nephew do about poles at Whistler?  How do you feel about poles now?  I know you've done a fair amount of skiing this season.

post #67 of 68
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My nephew adapted to it, he started using poles the 1st day @WB.  I guess kids adapt fast.  Then few days later, he started to try pole planting. He said he is trying to teach himself how to do it....    Next year, he is trying to convince me to go to Dolomites. 

Yes, I ski a lot this year.  Counting Alta (upcoming), it will be 26 days (it will be > than total # of days I skied in the past 5 years....).  I can do black diamond in PA hills now.  :yahoo:

post #68 of 68
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My nephew adapted to it, he started using poles the 1st day @WB.  I guess kids adapt fast.  Then few days later, he started to try pole planting. He said he is trying to teach himself how to do it....    Next year, he is trying to convince me to go to Dolomites. 

Yes, I ski a lot this year.  Counting Alta (upcoming), it will be 26 days (it will be > than total # of days I skied in the past 5 years....).  I can do black diamond in PA hills now.  :yahoo:


Thanks for the update.  Looking forward to skiing a few runs with you at Alta. :)

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