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Very low instep, but normal width - where to start?

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*I'm not looking to replace a proper boot fitting with an expert - I'm looking for help in where to start that process - what brands/boots might be a good fit for me so I can find a fitter than carries the brand*


Boot Guys-


After 5 years of fighting a far too big boot, I'm looking to completely change my setup and do it *right* with a good boot fitter.  I'm a tall, lanky guy with a very low arch and instep.  I'm currently in a 30.5 Rossi B-squad, but it's way, way too big and I have way too many bandaids in my setup.  I'm comfortable in a 29.5, but think that a 28.5 is better for me, possibly with a small toe punch. 


My problem is with volume.  Even in a Redster Pro, I'm on the last tooth of the buckles in both the feet and the ankle to get the boot tight.  So when I crank a boot down to get tight around my ankle and instep, I get weird pressure spots from the buckles.  But where I run into problems is that my foot width is probably closer to 100mm than it is 98 or 95mm.  I could possibly make a Redster work with a lot of punching and grinding; however, it's really too narrow for me I think.  


I obviously could add 5-7mm of material below the liner to lift my foot up; however, that creates problems for me with parts of my foot higher than where they should be, and I don't want to be an extra 5+mm above the ski.


Is there a good trick to add volume above the foot?  Perhaps 1-2 layers of that volume adding foam either on top of my liner or on the shell could give me the volume I need to not have to crank the shell all the way down and deform it?  Are there any intuition liners that have more volume on top of the foot?


Are there any boots out there that are low instep but not aggressively low volume?  Would a vacuum fit boot like the Fischer's help in my situation?  I was originally looking at a resort oriented AT boot that I could use with tech bindings like the Waymaker Carbons or the K2 Pinnacles, but am now thinking that I may instead avoid the walk/ride compromise and get something like a MTN Lab if/when I get more into touring.  


What about an Atomic Burner or Tracker?  I know it's discontinued, but I think it might be a good fit for me and there are new ones in my size on ebay.  Or a Quest Max 130?  A Lange XT LV?  I read somewhere that Full Tilts are wider but low volume - should I look into those?



About myself:


  • early 30s
  • 6'3" and 190lbs
  • small calves/ankles 
  • very, very flat feet
  • very, very low instep
  • no 6th toe issues
  • 98-100mm last
  • I overpronate badly and actually stress fractured both upper metatarsals in high school
  • three knee surgeries on my right knee
  • very fit - I trail run about 15 miles a week


About my skiing:

  • strong/expert skier, but not aggressive charger anymore
  • mostly ski off piste 
  • comfortable in all conditions and steeps, comfortable with 6-8' drops
  • don't ride switch
  • ~10-12 days a year of resort skiing, mostly chasing powder
  • A little bit of hiking to terrain but no sidecountry trips.
  • All West Coast skiing 
  • one or two heli / cat trips a year
  • one Chamonix trip a year





post #2 of 3

i am not even going to start to guess what boot you should be looking at as i can't see your feet, whilst you have given some good information seeing the 3 dimensional body part is the only way to do this right..... one part does get me thinking though... the part about badly over pronate.... if your foot is properly supported (and i don't mean by an off the shelf product here) it will become, if there is the flexibility i think there is from what you have said, shorter and higher around the instep, this could be a big help in getting you into a boot. BTW there are 10 metatarsals in your pair of feet, which one/ones did you stress fracture? this might give a clue to the level of instability  


the next thing is to get a mm width and length on your foot both non weighted and weight bearing, saying 98mm-100mm last is a start but the last measurements are taken in a size 26.5 shell and increase proportionally as you go up each shell size (by approx 2mm per size) so a 98mm shell is 102mm by the time you get to 28.5 and 106mm by the time your get to 30.5.... once you get to the right shell and support then the best option may be a PU foam liner with an injected tongue, or a Zipftit Grand Prix with some additional cork material in the tongue of the boot.


most of the boots you have mentioned have low volume areas, it all depends on how your foot sits when it is properly supported as to which one will do the best job.  building a relationship with a good fitter (possibly one whom is a C.Ped, and can get your foot into its best functioning position) will give you the best results, work with that fitter and you will be rewarded, let them guide you and tell you what they think will work best, most will send you off to buy the boot elsewhere if it is something specific that will work that they don't have.....going to them with a list of must try boots or demands and they will probably fire you as a customer faster than you can imagine


good luck getting sorted, low volume flat feet are challenging when it comes to ski boots but for the most part can be accommodated 

post #3 of 3

what CEM said.


not sure why a true race boot (92-97mm) would not work for you?    plus as you get into a size that fits you (28 vs 30) it is lower volume, so will help hold both your foot and chicken leg in place with less buckle force.

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