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Dynafit Vulcan 2016 info, downgrade for khion ??

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi,

This is my first post.

 

I'm trying to break into the touring world.. I ordered Dynafit vulcan 2015 as they seemed the most widely acclaimed. However,  the company I ordered from changed their position and said they could only send the 2016 model (at the same price—heavily discounted).

 

Should I go for the 2016 iteration as I can't find the 15 model anywhere for nearly as cheaply?

 

I can't find any detailed specs on the 16. Is it the same width as my feet are quite wide??

Have they downgraded it to make way for the khion—it doesnt have carbon fibre, its got the same material as the mercury, bit heavier etc.

 

I am apprehensive as I can't find any reviews anywhere!!.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

post #2 of 13
Have you ever tried them on?
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

I've tried on the 2015 version and they fit ok. The shop I went to didn't  realise there was a new version, so I have absolutely no info on the newer ones.

post #4 of 13
Graphic change only as far as I know. Hard to 'feel' a lot about the boot fit beyond the shell fit until the liner is cooked.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

I think the materials have slightly changed. But I hope your right that it is only really the graphics. I'm wondering if the shell was still a 103mm  width and its a good boot. Yes  but I cant try it moulded though?  I might be wrong as I don't have any experience with AT boots but I was thinking I could change the liner if it was really uncomfortable. Or does shell impact fit apart from width?

 

Just want to ensure the shell is wide enough and more importantly if the boot is as/nearly as good as the 2015 one before agreeing to delivery.

 

Thanks

post #6 of 13
It's not really a 103 shell... Closer to a 98-100. Your feet are 3d. Width measurement isn't . If the old one fit, to the bet of my knowledge, the new one will work. Why not have them send it and return it if necessary?
post #7 of 13

I don't know, but have read that they have gone away from grimalid plastics (this would be the lowers in the Vulcan as the uppers are Carbon) to a newer version of Pebax.  

 

Again I don't know, but I have read that Pebax can be more difficult to work with.  I need to do some work on my TLT5's but the other 2 Dynafit boots I have had have worked well for my feet and required no work.

 

Dynafit is very conscious of their branding and they are German so generally I trust the decisions they make.  They would not do this to save a buck or two in materials (I have no idea on these costs at an industrial scale, but can not imagine it to be much.), but they would change plastics if they felt it made their product better.

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 

An update:

 

I had them sent. They are too tight around the instep, especially on one foot which is a bit injured there..

 

Don't know if I should go to a shop and try a liner a half size up in the boot before sending them back. Is there much difference? also does the thickness change that much upon moulding?

 

Anyway it looks like its back to the drawing board.

post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by jclive View Post

An update:

I had them sent. They are too tight around the instep, especially on one foot which is a bit injured there..

Don't know if I should go to a shop and try a liner a half size up in the boot before sending them back. Is there much difference? also does the thickness change that much upon moulding?

Anyway it looks like its back to the drawing board.

Did you do a shell fit, or just pull them on?
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

Yes I tried a shell fit as well. I don't really know what I'm looking for.. My foots not touching the plastic, however,  there is  reduced volume around the instep.

 

Thanks for the reply.

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by jclive View Post

Yes I tried a shell fit as well. I don't really know what I'm looking for.. My foots not touching the plastic, however,  there is  reduced volume around the instep.

Thanks for the reply.

I only ask because the liner creates some 'unique', but not entirely correct first impressions before cooking. I padded the bejeezus out of my foot at particular points and was able to make a surprising amount of space even before doing 6th toe and navicular punches.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 

I think I could probably have made the boot work if I did that. However, I wouldn't know what I'm doing and the people in the shop weren't exactly helpful.

 

I ended up buying the neo px as it seemed to fit a lot better, even though it seems a similar shape, I even tried the neo liner in the vulcan and it still pinched the instep with the vulcan.

This might be because the neo is made out of a softer material and at room temperature just felt nicer. I will probably be more clued up on what to look for after doing a first season.

 

The guy in the shop said I shouldn't get it moulded as this can make it fixed in a 'bad position' and should wait until after a couple of days skiing. Is this correct?

 

 

Out of interest what boots do you use?

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by jclive View Post
 

I think I could probably have made the boot work if I did that. However, I wouldn't know what I'm doing and the people in the shop weren't exactly helpful.

 

I ended up buying the neo px as it seemed to fit a lot better, even though it seems a similar shape, I even tried the neo liner in the vulcan and it still pinched the instep with the vulcan.

This might be because the neo is made out of a softer material and at room temperature just felt nicer. I will probably be more clued up on what to look for after doing a first season.

 

The guy in the shop said I shouldn't get it moulded as this can make it fixed in a 'bad position' and should wait until after a couple of days skiing. Is this correct?

 

 

Out of interest what boots do you use?

 

 

Jeeeezez no. Don't pass go, don't collect $200 if you keep frequenting this shop.

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