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Jr skis for an intermediate skier... (thoughts?)

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  I was curious what to look for when buying a jr ski.  My son is an intermediate skier that can ski mid west black diamonds.  He has a lot of upper body movement and sort suffles his body even hip steers a bit in turns.  Still he is a fairly strong skier and able to put down some decent turns.  This year I want to put him into the local d-team.  He is around 175 lbs, and about 5,3 so not the smallest of children.  His leg strength is quite impressive as well.  He is in some Atomic live fit 80 flex boots.  

  I will have him demo a bunch of skis this year at the beginning of the year.  I figure that might be the best thing to do.  Still I sort of want a ski that will grow with him and push him a bit.  My question is more around a slalom ski.  He has not developed carving so much but would a jr slalom ski be too much for him?  I am looking around the 150-160 cm range.  I want something that will help him carve better but push him.  Previously he was on some volkl unlimited r1 skis.  I know for me a slalom ski has done wonders for my carving, a gs ski I think might be too much.

post #2 of 10

A junior sl ski would not be too much for him; it would be not enough for him.  At 175 lbs, he needs an adult ski.  160 cm would be good.  If he is still learning how to carve a turn, a full-on FIS SL ski would be too much for him.  He needs one a couple of steps down from that.

post #3 of 10

At his weight, its quite likely that a junior flex ski would be too little for him! Ditto for the boots. There are plenty of cheater SL skis in a 160 that you could get which would be a good bet for him. Even some of the higher end carvers would be sufficient. But one thing is for sure, a junior ski is going to noodle like theres no tomorrow

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  Right that was my thought as well that the boots are too soft.  I told the fitter that as well.  He had my vector 115 boots last winter and was flexing those just fine.  He never could put them on and off very well though.  I was leaning more toward something like a Head wc rebel jr at around the 156cm length.  I was not going to buy full on FIS slalom ski as those would be way too much for him.  He tried mine once on the beginner slope and didn't like them at all.  My question was more around should I even be trying to put him in a slalom ski or would a better step be something like a Fisher progressor, or a bilzzard ti ski?

post #5 of 10

Stockli Laser SC in 163 cm.  Done.

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Stockli Laser SC in 163 cm.  Done.

 

Those look like very decent ski's just too bad they are not readily available. 

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  I am kind of leaning toward the Blizzard x power 770 ti.  I tried this ski myself in a 183 length last year and thought it was a blast.  It seemed to work in both medium and small radius turns.  Also it had a bit of rebound to the ski.  It might be a bit much but I know I could sell it fairly easy as well.  The Fischer progessor which I have heard so much about doesn't have the best of reviews. 

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  I am kind of leaning toward the Blizzard x power 770 ti.  I tried this ski myself in a 183 length last year and thought it was a blast.  It seemed to work in both medium and small radius turns.  Also it had a bit of rebound to the ski.  It might be a bit much but I know I could sell it fairly easy as well.  The Fischer progessor which I have heard so much about doesn't have the best of reviews. 


I just don't understand why anyone would buy a progressor when the RC4 WC SC/RC are so good.   With the stock 1/3 tune these skis are also quite forgiving, especially the SC.

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I just don't understand why anyone would buy a progressor when the RC4 WC SC/RC are so good.   With the stock 1/3 tune these skis are also quite forgiving, especially the SC.

 

I have never tried them, and am not opposed to them at all.  I love my Fischer FIS WC slalom ski.  Just was not sure about how my son would ski on them.  To me the Fischer skis are one of the best slalom ski I have ever been on.  The non FIS ski is very soft ski that seems to handle speed well.  What is the difference with the superior to the slalom?

post #10 of 10

You have to watch the name game carefully.

 

In the current catalogue I only see Junior "Superior" models. 

 

In a previous catalog, I have seen "Superior Pro" which seems like a good enough ski, a cross between cheater GS and SL, and perhaps a little watered down from the SC Pro and RC Pro (which in previous year's iterations were simply RC and SC) , which are softer and gentler than the SL and GS.   I have also seen Superior RC and Superior SC models that in addition to being watered down from the RC and SC have "On Piste Rocker"  I'm not a big fan of Rocker on Piste, but that's just me.   Imho the "Superior" skis are inferior, but the Superior Pro might be acceptable if you can't decide on SC or RC.

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