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Can I run 215/60 R16 snow tires on car with OEM 215/65 R16?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I have a brand new set  of snow tires from a 2006 Forester that I just got rid of, size 215/60 R16.

 

Would like to put them on a 2005 CRV LX with AWD that is spec'd for 215/65 R16.

 

According to an online calculator the diameter is 3.1% smaller on the winter tires. Width is the same. 

 

Assuming the bolt pattern is the same and the rims fit on with no issue, are there any real drawbacks of using these tires on the CRV?

 

My speedometer will read slightly higher than my actual speed correct?

 

Table below is the comparison - the 65 is on the left, 60 on the right.

 

 

215/65-16 215/60-2516 Difference
Diameter inches (mm) 27 (685.9) 26.16 (664.4) -0.85 (-21.5) -3.1%
Width inches (mm) 8.46 (215) 8.46 (215) 0 (0) 0%
Circum. inches (mm) 84.84 (2154.82) 82.18 (2087.27) -2.66 (-67.54) -3.1%
Sidewall Height inches (mm) 5.5 (139.75) 5.08 (129) -0.42 (-10.75) -7.7%
Revolutions per mile (km) 746.86 (464.08) 771.03 (479.09) 24.17 (15.02) 3.2%
post #2 of 10

I'm guessing that 3% would still work; my daughter's Kia dealer was a selling 2% smaller set up for winter wheels and tires (16" instead of 17 inch wheels for cost savings).

 

With 3% smaller wheels you would have an effectively 3% shorter gear ratio leading to poorer fuel economy at highway speeds.  Computer shift points would be off by 3% and your trip computer would be off too.  In the snow and ice, less sidewall will not merge as well with the road, lessening snow and ice traction.  On the dry pavement, less sidewall will give more responsive handling.  The lower effective gear ratio will give faster acceleration.

 

I see some improvement in fair-weather handling and acceleration and a cost benefit via cheaper tires, at the expense of snow-ice handling and having your speedometer, odometer, trip computer and engine management computer being off.

post #3 of 10
Yes. You won't notice that small of a change. I just made a similar percentage change on my van. Completely unnoticeable.
post #4 of 10

Correction, unless you are downsizing rims and going with taller tire, you won't notice any cost improvement.  I used to run wider profile tires as my summer tires (same size rims), 2% smaller outside diameter.  I noticed the quicker pickup and improved handling, but the tires were actually more expensive.  Computer didn't seem to mind.

post #5 of 10

No issues at all with that change.  I like http://www.dakota-truck.net/TIRECALC/tirecalc.html

 

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

Correction, unless you are downsizing rims and going with taller tire, you won't notice any cost improvement.  I used to run wider profile tires as my summer tires (same size rims), 2% smaller outside diameter.  I noticed the quicker pickup and improved handling, but the tires were actually more expensive.  Computer didn't seem to mind.

 

Ghost - I already own the smaller tire. Bought them last year for my 2006 Forester which threw a piston rod bearing a few months ago. Replaced it with a 2005 CRV with 100k miles - winter car, plus a car for my teen daughter to drive instead of our good cars. She just got her license a month ago.

 

Thanks guys - will try the wheels on the CRV next week, and if they fit I'm going with it. My daughter will think she's going faster than she is which is a good thing.

post #7 of 10

All the tires listed so far in the thread are 16" tires.  What are your tires again?

EDIT: sorry was in a hurry; didn't fully read.  If your tire is alread on rims, you need to know that the rims will fit the car ok too.

My daughter just ordered rims and tires from costco.  They had a pdf you could download to get a code to order the correct rim for the car.  You might want to check it out.

www.costco.ca/wcsstore/CostcoCABCCatalogAssetStore/Attachment/100018256-C-wheelsCatalogueNov42015.pdf

 

:ahijack:Funny how nobody mentions that subby piston rod bearings don't last very long. 


Edited by Ghost - 11/14/15 at 1:24pm
post #8 of 10

I think i read from your post that you are hoping to use the Forester rims as well.  IIRC there is a different PCD for the boots on Honda and Subie so check that first

post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier View Post
 

I think i read from your post that you are hoping to use the Forester rims as well.  IIRC there is a different PCD for the boots on Honda and Subie so check that first

http://www.alloyguide.com/pcd.php

 

http://www.wheel-size.com/size/honda/cr-v/2005/

 

2006 Forester

  • Bolt pattern 5x100
    • Diameter: 16.0'' - 18.0'';  
    • Width (inches): 6.5 - 7.5;  
    • Offset (mm): 45 - 50.

 

2005 CR-V

  • Bolt pattern 5x114.3
    • Diameter: 15.0'' - 17.0'';  
    • Width (inches): 6 - 7;  
    • Offset (mm): 45 - 50.

 

Wheels won't work, tires will.

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

Ok thanks guys - the wheels were looking pretty crappy anyway so I'll look into replacing them.

 

Ghost - never heard of a problem with the piston rod bearings in the Foresters. None of the mechanics I talked do had seen it either. Car had 145k miles on it. I put it on Craigslist for $700, figuring I might get $200 from someone who wanted it for parts. Surprise surprise, I ended up getting two offers for $1,200 in the first hour it was up there! Buyer came 3  hours with a flatbed the next day with cash in hand, had a used engine in the car two weeks later. Win win.

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