Originally Posted by dakine
The Nubs pacesetters are using 23-27m skis.
I can't get those edge angles so that's why I'm thinking 18m.
When I ran my 16 m skis it seemed like I was overturning and waiting for the next turn.
It seemed to me that the course skied differently than it did when the pacesetters were on cheaters.
The number of gates is the same and the offset is the same but the rhythm is different..
I do have some 2006, 21m women's Atomics that are the real deal but my game has to be good to turn those in a tuck.
The only thing tricky I found on the typical nub's nastar course set was the second gate and sometimes the 5th or 6th. They like to put a good size jog in it or tight spacing when your skis aren't quite up to speed up top. From there you need to make the call on living with a ski that's faster in the middle and bottom of the hill with less correctability and just suffer through the first two or three gates, or be a bit slower at the bottom but loose less time up top and allow for more small corrections. Tuning counts as well, a 1 degree base bevel will give you a little more flat glide than a .5.
I'm actually parting ways with a skied on five times Volkl Racetiger 175 17.5M that are in near new shape, they were just a little too turny for my liking since I have been programmed to man handle my Nordica's. The Volkls require a more finessed touch, initiation is awesome and I can rock the top half of the course, but for my bull in the china shop style they are a hair slower for me by the bottom. I'm also really considering selling my backup race skis, a 176cm 21m Atomic Jr. GS ski that are also in superb condition. They are a little slow to initiate, but the edge hold is killer and they have no problems generating the angles needed to keep my 185 lb body on course. If you have any interest I'll keep them out of the ski swap in TC this weekend. I plan on hitting nubs for a tuning drop off next week and can meet you there.
My personal holy grail ski will be a 19.5 to 21M ski that initiates quick, can bend medium radius turns better than my GSRs while giving up little to nothing on the overall grip at speed. All things point to Volkl, Rossi/Dyanstar and Elan to get it. If I had picked up the 2013 Volkl Racetiger I had in a 180 and not a 175 I wouldn't be parting with it.
And as a bench mark, I'm about 185lbs, cyclist and cross trained athletic guy that is platinum in a suit and bounce between gold and platinum in a jacket. I can't quite fully stay on top of a full on 27 or 30m race ski to make it work, but can score well on 19m to 23m skis. Most of it comes down to timing and less strength.