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post #31 of 50
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I think I need to clarify something for the OP. SKI and Skiing magazines (which are both owned by the same company, don't know why they still print both) are not magazines that serious skiers generally read or look at. 

Which is funny, given the number of members here who seem following the reviews closely enough to argue about how crappy they are. I guess either many have complementary subscriptions, or read them at the doctor's office, or more likely we're just not serious skiers. :rolleyes

 

It's hard not to get a complimentary SKI magazine. I've managed for the last couple of seasons, but it seems like I'm getting one this season again. Not because I asked for it.

post #32 of 50
One season, I had THREE copies of SKI coming each month. Got them to make all the subscriptions run in succession after a bit. It was crazy.
post #33 of 50

I've only read the magazine reviews when I worked in the shop. Knowing what is in the reviews was the only way I could talk someone out of a ski that was absolutely wrong for them. A guy that skis 5 days a season in Stowe doesn't need a Line Mothership in a 195 for example. Regardless of what the reviews say.

post #34 of 50

I have enough years (decades :o) reading those reviews that I rarely bother, particularly with the mass media magazines. I've seen so many instances of an unchanged ski getting completely different reviews from one year to the next depending on advertising pages that it's all nonsense.

 

That's where EPIC, and my buds at the shops that I go to come in.

post #35 of 50

I'll try to reframe this a bit. Does anyone here actually have fun finding out about gear, or entertaining to talk about it online? Does anyone, say in August, get to a point where they just idly cruise the web looking for any morsel of info about gear to keep the stoke going? Where they might go check last year's data just to see if there was a scrap they overlooked, or maybe using Google translation for those weird Russian and Danish and French sites? Does anyone here like batting around ratings, even to complain? 

 

I mean, at what point did this all get so core, so deadly serious, that it's irritating to see a copy of SKIING floating around?

 

Save your irritation for real stuff. 

post #36 of 50

I guess I am in the minority around here.  I actually find the SKI reviews helpful.  Yes they are all positive (because they only print the winners) and short (they review a lot of skis), but I find the info useful as a screening tool.  If I find something that may be of interest,  I'll research it further elsewhere to see if it deserves a demo. 

post #37 of 50
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I'll try to reframe this a bit. Does anyone here actually have fun finding out about gear, or entertaining to talk about it online? Does anyone, say in August, get to a point where they just idly cruise the web looking for any morsel of info about gear to keep the stoke going? Where they might go check last year's data just to see if there was a scrap they overlooked, or maybe using Google translation for those weird Russian and Danish and French sites? Does anyone here like batting around ratings, even to complain? 

 

I mean, at what point did this all get so core, so deadly serious, that it's irritating to see a copy of SKIING floating around?

 

Save your irritation for real stuff. 

Yes, it is entertaininig to log on to Epicski and talk shop with all you folks. 

 

Who thinks about skiing in August? Late October, early November for sure, but August? Hell no.

 

I stopped being interested by ski magazines a long time ago. It has nothing to do with being core or taking my place in the sport too seriously. It has to do with the sense that I've already read a few dozen stories about epic snow in Jackson Hole. I don't need to read any more pieces about what it means, exactly, to be a local. I don't really care what the Master Fit University people say about this boot or that ski. I would much rather read  Beyond's review of a ski. It would be a more genuine and a bit less predictable. Just don't write one in August….I'll miss it for sure. 

post #38 of 50

You gotta remember that every ski brand pays into these magazine tests to the tune of about 5K so the magazine has to promote all brands. Seems a bit like an arms race to me.

post #39 of 50
I don't buy skis every year, so I only look at reviews when I'm in the market and almost never in the magazines. I'll just start googling things that have made the shortlist over the time since I last bought, mostly to make sure that all like them. Then I'll try to demo them. That usually convinces me it's the wrong ski. Back to shortlist. More demos. Then, what the hey? Point click, get used to them.
post #40 of 50
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Ever wanted to go into a ski shop, recite word-for-word a ski review, and see what the shop personnel come up with?

 

Actually, we should play that game here.

I have done this strictly to amuse myself. I was waiting to pick up my son's skis and I was browsing the new boards when the salesman walked up to me. (I should say salesboy.)

 

We started talking about last years Bonafides and I just started rattling off some specs, comments on their construction and pieces of reviews I had read, including some from here. After about :30 seconds I asked a question. His response was a cross between crickets and humana-humana-humana. 

 

Of course, I then felt bad. Thanked his for his time took my pickup and left. 

post #41 of 50
Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.
post #42 of 50
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Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.

 

*having a sad now*

post #43 of 50

I've been pretty happy with the knowledge of *some of* the people I reach when I call Powder7 for info on their new or demo skis. Some aren't tops, but others are.

 

My favorite place to ogle skis is at my bootfitter while waiting for work to get done, or standing around trying pairs. Larry's carries a limited selection, plus there are usually a few skis out waiting for their customer, and they are often skis you don't see elsewhere, certainly not in mainstream reviews (always too long for me). I see lots of skis with telemark bindings there, and telemark skiers seem to gravitate to a different set of brands and models.

post #44 of 50
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Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.

That's my conversational gambit ruined - "howdya like those.....?" is pretty much all I've got. 

post #45 of 50
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Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.

That's my conversational gambit ruined - "howdya like those.....?" is pretty much all I've got. 

 

At least you didn't try to talk about technique. 

post #46 of 50
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Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.
That's my conversational gambit ruined - "howdya like those.....?" is pretty much all I've got. 

At least you didn't try to talk about technique. 
That is taboo. Even with ski friends. COM,ROM,BSL their eyes glaze over.
post #47 of 50
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Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.
That's my conversational gambit ruined - "howdya like those.....?" is pretty much all I've got. 

At least you didn't try to talk about technique. 
That is taboo. Even with ski friends. COM,ROM,BSL their eyes glaze over.


*Ponders craigslist ad:   Looking for CoM RoM BSL buddy.   Strictly casual. *

post #48 of 50
Yeah, I've tried to talk skis or tuning with even people in skiing with. Half don't even know the length of the skis they are on.
post #49 of 50
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Don't talk ski specs on the lift. Most folks don't know much about the skis on their feet.

That's my conversational gambit ruined - "howdya like those.....?" is pretty much all I've got. 

 

That will always work. People who know nothing about ski tech will still tell you how much they love their skis, and people who value topsheets will tell you how happy they are with the graphics. If the goal is just to get through a lift ride with some chatter, it works great. On the flip side, people on bare bones rentals will often ask about my skis, either the graphics or (for most of my pairs) the width.  

post #50 of 50
I just tell'm their homemade. I mean hand made.
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