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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

We are a party of European ski enthusiasts coming to SLC in eraly December to explore nearby mountains (mainly looking at the Cottonwood canyons).

I am trying to book rental skis for our party and I got the rental lists from couple of top of the list places, but I can not find anything that we are used to.

We are intermediate piste skiers and stay on groomed runs all the time.

We normally ski narrow waisted carver skis (my own home skis are actually American - K2 Velocity and Scott Black Majic). 

The problem is that I can not find anything similar for rent in SLC (at least online).

Specifically I am looking for intermediate-advanced carvers narrower than 80mm waist.

It that because the piste prep is bad, or average skier in UT is more off-piste minded?

 

We will be in SLC from Dec 3 to Dec 13 and I believe off piste will not be an option anyway due to lack of snow.

The 11 day rental costs for us are going to be very substantial and we do not want to spend on something that we do not like.

I would much appreciate recommendations for the rental shop which carries more familiar geometry for us.

Many thanks in advance.

post #2 of 22

Paging @Cheizz , @Ski Kiwi to help out Europeans looking to rent skinny skis in SLC.

 

In case anyone is wondering, the OP has another thread about where to ski during early season when on a trip to visit other places in western U.S.  No need to discuss the choice of destination or the timing of the trip.

post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by zuikiz View Post
 

Specifically I am looking for intermediate-advanced carvers narrower than 80mm waist.

It that because the piste prep is bad, or average skier in UT is more off-piste minded?

 

While there is no question that the average Utah skier is going to be more off-piste minded, I would strongly encourage you to try an "all-mountain" type of ski.  Have you skied on these before?  I am also an intermediate skier who stays on piste more often than not and have found that my skiing has greatly improved with some of the wider parabolic skis (Blizzard Bonafides, Rossignol Sin 7, etc.).  I would think that just about any intermediate/demo rental package at the Utah locations is going to provide you with skis that you will like.

post #4 of 22

I rented once at one of the big chains on the way from the airport and was disappointed in the selection and quality of demos.  I recommend going to one of the specialty ski shops just before you enter the canyon, or at one of the shops at the ski areas themselves.  Many times the in-area shops provide an option to swap out demos to try several different skis.

 

It was several years ago, but I was impressed by the selection at Brighton -- and surprised, given the snowboard-centric culture there.

post #5 of 22

Really? What you are after remains the basis of volume rental fleets everywhere - 

 

https://www.canyonsports.com/adult_ski.php

 

https://www.skinsee.com/rentals#loc=7&win=14-29

 

Just go for the basic "Sport" package if in doubt but even if you go "performance" or "premium/demo" most shops will have something skinny you can pick

 

Or just go buy a pair on arrival from these guys

 

https://www.levelninesports.com

 

Basic carver with bindings $149

post #6 of 22

You're right I guess, I'm not in the same market segment as the OP.

But it is still true that the big chains in the valley are oriented to renting large volumes of low-level skis.  They advertise demos, but at least at the location I went to, the pickings were sparse.

post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 

I've contacted both SkinSee and CanyonSports and got their demo lists for 2015/2016. In both cases the narrowest advanced skis they have are Head iSupershape Titanium at 80mm.

All other stuff is either beginner's sub 80mm allmountains or wider freeski/powder skis.

 

Yes, I've skied multiple all mountain skis. I am fine with them on the ungroomed pistes or at the end of the day, but for the sheer carving pleasure, as well as ease of skiing, they are not something I enjoy.

Also, one member of our party is Atomic Redster D2 SL die-hard and he wows not to touch anything wider.

 

I am not against small shops by any means, but I can not find them online.

Since we need skis for 11 days I would like to book in advance. Also having an advance booking discounts is helpful.

post #8 of 22

Are you bringing your own boots?

post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 

Couple of extra points:

We are only looking for skis and poles.

We are bringing our own boots and helmets.

Based on big chain prices the costs seem to be around $35 day or ~385$/person for the whole period.

My basic research suggests that buying a decent 2nd pair may even be cheaper.

Any thoughts on this? Is there a good place/shop for this?

post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by zuikiz View Post
 

Couple of extra points:

We are only looking for skis and poles.

We are bringing our own boots and helmets.

Based on big chain prices the costs seem to be around $35 day or ~385$/person for the whole period.

My basic research suggests that buying a decent 2nd pair may even be cheaper.

Any thoughts on this? Is there a good place/shop for this?

Are you thinking buying about new or used skis?  You will have a car in SLC, correct? I always enjoy looking around 2nd Tracks in SLC.  It's a decent size consignment shop that also sells some new skis.  But not likely to find skinny skis there either.

 

http://2ndtracks.com

post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 

We will have a car.

If that is the only option, 2nd hand skis would be fine, but we do not want to make it a ski trading vacation :)

post #12 of 22

I haven't rented skis from them, but one that I remember from buying discount lift tickets is

http://www.thelifthouse.com/

 

Another - 3 locations at Alta, one near the canyon entrance:

http://powderhouseskishop.com/locations/wasatch-powder-house

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by zuikiz View Post
 

I've contacted both SkinSee and CanyonSports and got their demo lists for 2015/2016. In both cases the narrowest advanced skis they have are Head iSupershape Titanium at 80mm.

All other stuff is either beginner's sub 80mm allmountains or wider freeski/powder skis.

 

Yes, I've skied multiple all mountain skis. I am fine with them on the ungroomed pistes or at the end of the day, but for the sheer carving pleasure, as well as ease of skiing, they are not something I enjoy.

Also, one member of our party is Atomic Redster D2 SL die-hard and he wows not to touch anything wider.

 

I am not against small shops by any means, but I can not find them online.

Since we need skis for 11 days I would like to book in advance. Also having an advance booking discounts is helpful.

 

Not wishing to be too uncooperative but if you have such defined tastes why not swallow the baggage charges and bring your own skis with you? 

post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 

Bringing our own is not an option due to intercontinental flights with 3 different airlines, also the need of the XL car to haul them before we even arrive to SLC.

Frankly guys, if you ever ski in Europe (especially Italy or Austria) most of the rental offer will be 68-78mm wide carving piste skis and most shops readily offer SL and GS race carvers. It will be impossible to get anything wider than 90mm.

In SLC it seems to be the opposite.

post #15 of 22

Last year, I rented from Bahnhof at Park City.  I know that they will sell some demo skis.  But that is not near Park City.  I did a quick check on ebay and there are sellers of used Blizzard skis from $200-$450.  Several are 98 underfoot, but there was at least one 88 and one 76.

 

I own these Blizzard Magnums in the same size and I like them quite a bit as carvers.  They wouldn't be my first choice for Utah, but if you want a narrow carver and 163 is the right length, they are a great ski at that price.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blizzard-7-6-163cm-Magnum-Alpine-Skis-w-Bindigs-/311464269358?hash=item4884b7962e:g:F-cAAOSwuTxWAwu0

post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by zuikiz View Post
 

Bringing our own is not an option due to intercontinental flights with 3 different airlines, also the need of the XL car to haul them before we even arrive to SLC.

Frankly guys, if you ever ski in Europe (especially Italy or Austria) most of the rental offer will be 68-78mm wide carving piste skis. It will be impossible to get anything wider than 90mm.

In SLC it seems to be the opposite.

 

Yes I know what the rental market is like in Europe (& why I have my own quiver of skis in sizes I like to ski - it's laughable when a rental jockey offers you something 90mm in 180cm length when you've asked for a big powder ski) 

 

But consider that most people who go Utah skiing are either in the beginner- intermediate range so happy with standard rental stock or advanced-expert which means they will be looking for skis which enable the best enjoyment of softer snow conditions that Utah is generally known for.  So regular (cheap) stores keeping a large redundant stock of high end skinny carvers is unlikely.  There will be some but you'll probably have to go to the high end in resort shops or find a store which caters to racers.

post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by zuikiz View Post
 

Bringing our own is not an option due to intercontinental flights with 3 different airlines, also the need of the XL car to haul them before we even arrive to SLC.

Frankly guys, if you ever ski in Europe (especially Italy or Austria) most of the rental offer will be 68-78mm wide carving piste skis and most shops readily offer SL and GS race carvers. It will be impossible to get anything wider than 90mm.

In SLC it seems to be the opposite.


For the one guy who is determined to stick with a narrow ski . . . it's possible to ship skis.  Obviously not cheap though.  Remember reading discussions started by Americans who were flying the opposite direction.  Wanted to have their own skis to use in Europe before/after a business trip but didn't want to lug skis in airports or on the train.

post #18 of 22
If you decide to buy checkout level nine sports in slc.
post #19 of 22
Apologies in advance if this is a bit blunt - but based on my experience travelling long-haul to ski and demoing skis while in North America I think that your expectations are too optimistic and you also need to accept that there are some things that you just can't change.

I take it from what you have posted above that you have not brought through tickets on a single carrier network airline e.g. Star Alliance but have booked each journey leg yourself. If this is the case make sure that you have excellent travel insurance in case of delays which cause you to miss connecting flights. If you have booked through tickets on the same network I would seriously reconsider bringing skis with you - clearing customs and rechecking your bags with the same carrier is usually pretty simple and well organised in the US and you'll have to do it anyway assuming you have other luggage, although with or without bags expect it to take longer than you think. No they won't all fit in a car easily if you all have sport tubes - but unless you are an international ski team they should fit. How are you going to transport your skis from resort to resort or are you staying on mountain at one place?

You basically just have to accept that many retailers in the US, especially smaller ones, do not have a big, or web presence and it usually does not reflect all of their stock or services. For some reason when you search from overseas you often only get the standard rental shops - which I don't think are going to be able to help you. The only way around this is to search for stockists from the manufacturers websites, it takes longer but gets you further.

You are wanting to rent something that the market in that part of the world does not demand, therefore a retailer will not stock. And you are wanting race skis at basic budget rental prices. This won't happen so you just need to accept this and move on. I'd be budgeting based on $50 per day, and don't forget taxes which are not quoted in online prices or advertised prices in the US. You have two options as I see it - 1) find a shop that specialises in ski racing and book demo skis - which will be expensive for 11 days and I don't think that you would get a discount for having the skis for a longer period.

Or 2) buy previous seasons skis on sale from somewhere like level nine or a retailer on the east coast. Get them shipped to your accommodation, or pick up in SLC if you find a retailer there. Ski on them for the 11 days and then leave them at a consignment store where since it is early in the season they may sell, but probably not for a premium (since it is not what the local market is demanding).

Honestly, for us, when you weigh up all of the hassle and time lost in trying to source skis that are not routinely available in the location you are going to, picking them up, getting them shipped to you, selling or consigning them at the end of the trip it often isn't worth it.
post #20 of 22

No idea about SLC, but renting in Vail last year, if you didn't get the "demo" package (i.e. if you got package geared at intermediate) you got 72mm waist K2 AMP skis. It was something like $25 a day for just skis and poles. (We actually did get the "demo" package, allowing you to try a bunch of different, wider, skis, but were debating which to go with.)

 

Some of the SLC/Resort shops probably have a similar situation. (Like this one : http://www.parkcitysport.com/equipment/ , their mid-range package include 74mm Salomon Enduros) They might be more beginner/intermediate skis than advanced carvers, but maybe that meets your needs?

post #21 of 22

As a non-skier, this might sound odd... but why not rent something a little fatter than you're used to?  The Cottonwood Canyons aren't Europe, and its not a cruiser paradise.  Get something a little fatter and try your luck with a little off piste.  Beside, at that time of year, all the shops will be stocked to the max before the holiday season.  You can make the call when you get there.

post #22 of 22
I think there will be more skinny options then you think.
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