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OCD Has my head spinning on ski upgrade!

post #1 of 16
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I am looking to replace my old Bushwackers this season. I thought I had my mind set on demoing the Rossi sin 7 but then my local ski shop said that I should check out the Blizzard peacemaker and k2 shredinator 102. My mind working the way it works took to the internet where it got even more confusing! My very short list has now expanded to include the Rossi sin/soul 7, shred 102, peacemaker and pb&j.

 

I know these skis are all a little different but I think they can all do what I am looking to do. I am an advanced skier looking to really up my off piste tree and bump game this season. I ski Vermont 90% of the time mostly sugarbush but hit Jay when I can. I really want to improve my tree skiing this season. I can get through bumps and glades but looking for a fun playful ski that will help me get where I want to be. 

 

The bushwackers have been great but they are nearing the end of the road and they took a beating last season. I am a big guy, 6'1"/ 220lbs so not sure if the skis on my list will be a good choice. Any advice on pushing me one way or the other? I was considering the brahma/bones but I know they bite back if you get in the back seat and trying to up my bump/tree game I probably will be spending some time there.

post #2 of 16

Hola!  Welcome to epicski.

 

First question: what did you like or dislike about your Bushwackers in the conditions you're targeting for your new skis?  Are you looking for a ski specifically for tree skiing and bumps, or do you want an all rounder that is pretty good in trees/bumps?

post #3 of 16
If you're OCD and looking to buy skis you've absolutely come to the right place. Take the red pill and use the search tools.
post #4 of 16
Be glad you don't have CDO !

It's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order...
post #5 of 16
At least you didn't read it as QCD like I did the first time. That's something completely different, but it is related to spin.
post #6 of 16

Skip the Shreditor 102. It skis like laminated spaghetti; however, you might want to give the Pinnacle 105 a sideways glance. This is likely the best ski K2 has ever made…..well, the Bolt is damn good too. And look at the Salomon QLab…..and stay the hell away from those Sin 7s!

post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by sinbad7 View Post
 

Hola!  Welcome to epicski.

 

First question: what did you like or dislike about your Bushwackers in the conditions you're targeting for your new skis?  Are you looking for a ski specifically for tree skiing and bumps, or do you want an all rounder that is pretty good in trees/bumps?

Looking for an all rounder that is pretty good in the trees/bumps. I typically stayed away from trees and bumps but now my 6 year old is starting to enjoy being off the trail more and more and I am the one chasing after him though the glades lol. I was a big fan of the bushwacker but noticed if I got in the backseat at all in the moguls it would launch me. I have read that the brahma is even more prone to this behaviour. Looking for a similar ski to the bushwacker but maybe a little more forgiving in the tails if I don't have the best form at all times. 

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Originally Posted by sinbad7 View Post
 

Hola!  Welcome to epicski.

 

First question: what did you like or dislike about your Bushwackers in the conditions you're targeting for your new skis?  Are you looking for a ski specifically for tree skiing and bumps, or do you want an all rounder that is pretty good in trees/bumps?

Looking for an all rounder that is pretty good in the trees/bumps. I typically stayed away from trees and bumps but now my 6 year old is starting to enjoy being off the trail more and more and I am the one chasing after him though the glades lol. I was a big fan of the bushwacker but noticed if I got in the backseat at all in the moguls it would launch me. I have read that the brahma is even more prone to this behaviour. Looking for a similar ski to the bushwacker but maybe a little more forgiving in the tails if I don't have the best form at all times. 


FX84s are going cheap these days — I've seen last-season's NOS for around $600 — and Dawgcatching has screaming deals on FX94s.  Kästles are generally steep, but with the 2015-16 model upgrades, last season's are reasonable as all heck.

post #9 of 16

Demo on the hill where they'll let you exchange skis during the day.  Nobody here will know which skis and which size will put the biggest smile on your face.

post #10 of 16
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Demo on the hill where they'll let you exchange skis during the day.  Nobody here will know which skis and which size will put the biggest smile on your face.

That's right. We never do, though we always try.
post #11 of 16
Agree with what SoftSnowGuy said.  The best way is to use us as a starting point for suggestions, and then demo the top candidates  -- which is what is sounds like you're doing. As SSG also alludes, another valuable result of demoing is not just finding which ski, but what length (though given your size, you might have this easy -- in nearly all cases, you'd probably want to be on the longest one made).   You may already know this, but if a ski seems bad, it could be the tune, in which case you can ask the shop doing the demos to check or re-tune it.  Also pay attention to the size of the person making recommendations (if they don't say, feel free to ask); ideally you want to hear from someone about the same size as you (or from someone who knows how big guys have reacted to a certain ski).
 
Another option, if you and your friends have skis with adjustable bindings (or if your BSL's are the same length), and they have something you want to try, is to swap skis with them.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the advice guys! I think I was just looking to add to my madness! I'm going to try and demo but sugarbush doesn't have a huge selection. I can most likely get on the Rossi's and the peacemakers but highly doubtful on the pb&js
post #13 of 16

More information about what you plan on using these for.  It sounds like this will be your only/primary ski.  Unless you are skiing stashes that last long after the storm, that means that these will spend a lot of time on firm snow and most of your time in bumps and the trees will be on skied out trees, not powder.  Also, you say you are looking to work on your tree and bump skiing this season.  So, what would you project the split of your time between powder (on/off trail), skied out trees, skied out bumps, and groomers to be?

 

Based on that I think you will get some good suggestions and advice from the community here.  I'm guessing that if you are looking for a single ski to ski Sugarbush you are going to be happier on a ski in the 80-90 under foot range than wider skis.  It's the old buy a ski for the conditions that you actually ski most of the time, not the ones you wish you skied more often.

 

If you'll make every storm, or at least most of them and will only be on groomed terrain getting to/from the lift, and the rest of the time will be spent lapping stashes, well that's a different story.

post #14 of 16

OP, couple of comments. 1) The skis you seem to like are fairly flexy and light for a guy your size. Yep, they'll work in bumps and tight trees nicely, but I wonder how they'll do elsewhere for you, like on ice, or any speed over 30 mph. Do you own narrower skis? 2) If you get launched in the bumps and trees, then yep, you prolly are in the backseat, and suspect you'd benefit from some lessons. They might save your body, too; trees are fairly unyielding. 3) Think about Lakespapa's suggestion of the FX94's, or rethink something like Brahmas or Fischer Motive 95's. Line Supernatural's might be a route, too. Bonafides, yep, I'd avoid until you're out of the back seat. 

post #15 of 16
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OP, couple of comments. 1) The skis you seem to like are fairly flexy and light for a guy your size. Yep, they'll work in bumps and tight trees nicely, but I wonder how they'll do elsewhere for you, like on ice, or any speed over 30 mph. Do you own narrower skis? 2) If you get launched in the bumps and trees, then yep, you prolly are in the backseat, and suspect you'd benefit from some lessons. They might save your body, too; trees are fairly unyielding. 3) Think about Lakespapa's suggestion of the FX94's, or rethink something like Brahmas or Fischer Motive 95's. Line Supernatural's might be a route, too. Bonafides, yep, I'd avoid until you're out of the back seat. 

 

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More information about what you plan on using these for.  It sounds like this will be your only/primary ski.  Unless you are skiing stashes that last long after the storm, that means that these will spend a lot of time on firm snow and most of your time in bumps and the trees will be on skied out trees, not powder.  Also, you say you are looking to work on your tree and bump skiing this season.  So, what would you project the split of your time between powder (on/off trail), skied out trees, skied out bumps, and groomers to be?

 

Based on that I think you will get some good suggestions and advice from the community here.  I'm guessing that if you are looking for a single ski to ski Sugarbush you are going to be happier on a ski in the 80-90 under foot range than wider skis.  It's the old buy a ski for the conditions that you actually ski most of the time, not the ones you wish you skied more often.

 

If you'll make every storm, or at least most of them and will only be on groomed terrain getting to/from the lift, and the rest of the time will be spent lapping stashes, well that's a different story.

 

Yes these will be my primary ski. As long as we get the snow sugarbush has some decent side country that has stashes for days. I have a house on the mountain and we are there every weekend/school vacation plus what ever days in between. I got about 50 days in last season and hoping to top that this season. I try to avoid groomers as much as possible but east coast resort skiing that isn't always an option : ) I was very happy with the bushwacker so looking for something similiar. Was kind of thinking the peacemaker would be a good step up that would aloow me to increase my game and still be a playful/surfy ski.

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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

OP, couple of comments. 1) The skis you seem to like are fairly flexy and light for a guy your size. Yep, they'll work in bumps and tight trees nicely, but I wonder how they'll do elsewhere for you, like on ice, or any speed over 30 mph. Do you own narrower skis? 2) If you get launched in the bumps and trees, then yep, you prolly are in the backseat, and suspect you'd benefit from some lessons. They might save your body, too; trees are fairly unyielding. 3) Think about Lakespapa's suggestion of the FX94's, or rethink something like Brahmas or Fischer Motive 95's. Line Supernatural's might be a route, too. Bonafides, yep, I'd avoid until you're out of the back seat. 

Only ski I own right now is the bushwacker which did great for me in pretty much all but the deepest snow. I was on the mantras before them and really liked those but that was before I started chasing my kid through the trees and bumps. I usually stuck to the steep groomers with the mantras and occasional bump/cruddy runs. I 100% agree with he lesson recommendation and my wife bought me a pack of 1on1 lessons with John Egan this season so hopefully that will help me up my glade skiing this season.

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I 100% agree with he lesson recommendation and my wife bought me a pack of 1on1 lessons with John Egan this season so hopefully that will help me up my glade skiing this season.

This will make a MASSIVE difference, much more than any ski upgrade.

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