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Skier survives 1,600' fall

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Saw this clip from TGR's Paradise Awaits... It's a miracle fortunate that the title of the film wasn't the outcome of this video.
Edit: Ok maybe not a miracle.
post #2 of 21

Aww, he's ok. That wasn't even close to a miracle. Now if he'd gone over a 1600 foot cliff and survived that would have been closer to a miracle, but frankly anything over 2-300 feet just does not matter much because you've maxed out on velocity. In this clip I'm guessing the closest this ragdoll gets to trouble is a couple face fulls of snow. We need some thuds from impacts with rocks and some bone snapping to really liven up the clip. If the guy was really ok though, at the end, instead of saying "I'm OK!" he would have said "I need new underwear STAT!"

post #3 of 21

Yeah, the thread title is a little misleading.  If I wasn't concerned with climbing back up 1600' to get my skis it almost looks fun.

post #4 of 21

Well, if he had hooked an arm or leg into that crevasse, it could've been a much different situation. Or maybe it was just a line from a prior slab avalanche, wasn't really sure from the video.

 

The guy could certainly stand to work on his self arrest techniques though... ;-}

post #5 of 21

Yeah self arrest doesn't really happen on those sort of pitches - the tomahawk over the bergshrund is almost becoming a ski movie cliche these days.  There was clip a few years back called Hole in One where someone actually tomahawks into a hole IIRC.

post #6 of 21

Agreed, my comment was tongue in cheek, looked to be a 60-70* slope.

post #7 of 21

So, that's what heli skiing is all about?

post #8 of 21

Yeah, pass. Had it been me (assuming you could have gotten me over the edge), I wouldn't have been saying "I'm ok" at the bottom.

post #9 of 21

just imagine the trek up to retrieve his skis...:(

post #10 of 21
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just imagine the trek up to retrieve his skis...:(


That's the ski-valet's job.

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by fatbob View Post
 

There was clip a few years back called Hole in One where someone actually tomahawks into a hole IIRC.

That video is on Snowbrains front page right now.

 

Or this one?

 

post #12 of 21
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So, that's what heli skiing is all about?

 

 

Heli skiing is nothing like that unless you are a pro skier.......

post #13 of 21

Nobody skies 70 degree slopes.

 

Yes it matters a lot if if you fall 3-400 feet or 1600 feet.  Much greater risk for injury with the longer fall.

 

edited for clarity


Edited by Maineac - 11/6/15 at 10:18am
post #14 of 21

And just because the skier says his "ok" in the first few seconds after coming to a stop doesn't mean he actually is.  I recognize those grunts he was making - those are the same noises I made after rupturing my intestines in a fall, and didn't realize there was serious damage for over an hour. Since this footage is obviously well in the past, I acknowledge that he probably is ok or we would have heard more, but there's no way you can assume that from the video.

post #15 of 21

Speaking as a guy who has survived a 500+' rag-doll fall (I was glissading down-slope after an alpine climb), I am not so enthused about the glorification of these events.  The media exaltation of extremely dicey skiing and other sport events (think of the recent events at the Red Bull Challenge) are driving folks to try harder and harder -- and MUCH more dangerous -- stunts.  And the casual, "well, we all learned something" and "he scored a hole-in-one" comments afterwards minimizes the risk, danger, and outright danger.  

 

I fell because I did something wrong and stupid and beyond my ability level.  This skier did something wrong and stupid and, at least for this jump, beyond his skill level.  Don't glory in it or minimize how dumb he was.  

 

Sorry to sound like an old-fart moralist, but publicity has a way of driving folks beyond their limits.  Let's not encourage it.

post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by tch View Post
 

Speaking as a guy who has survived a 500+' rag-doll fall (I was glissading down-slope after an alpine climb), I am not so enthused about the glorification of these events.  The media exaltation of extremely dicey skiing and other sport events (think of the recent events at the Red Bull Challenge) are driving folks to try harder and harder -- and MUCH more dangerous -- stunts.  And the casual, "well, we all learned something" and "he scored a hole-in-one" comments afterwards minimizes the risk, danger, and outright danger.  

 

I fell because I did something wrong and stupid and beyond my ability level.  This skier did something wrong and stupid and, at least for this jump, beyond his skill level.  Don't glory in it or minimize how dumb he was.  

 

Sorry to sound like an old-fart moralist, but publicity has a way of driving folks beyond their limits.  Let's not encourage it.


Well, I agree, but I've been trashed for it.  

post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by TheRusty View Post
 

Aww, he's ok. That wasn't even close to a miracle. Now if he'd gone over a 1600 foot cliff and survived that would have been closer to a miracle, but frankly anything over 2-300 feet just does not matter much because you've maxed out on velocity. In this clip I'm guessing the closest this ragdoll gets to trouble is a couple face fulls of snow. We need some thuds from impacts with rocks and some bone snapping to really liven up the clip. If the guy was really ok though, at the end, instead of saying "I'm OK!" he would have said "I need new underwear STAT!"

Yes, that was just some mellow ragdolling down a hill:D Now this clip of a norwegian skier who gets a bit confused on his line is a bit more disheartening. Admire the no hesitation attitude when going over blind rollovers on steep terrain.

 

Skip to around 2:30 for the action

 

 

post #18 of 21
Good thing that always happens, right?
post #19 of 21

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ian-mcintosh-pro-skier-survives-1-600-foot-fall-alaska-n460761

 

mod note: this post was started in a separate thread (including the next 2 posts) and then merged here

post #20 of 21

He touched nothing but snow the entire way down. Sailed over one little drop, but otherwise just tumbled. I give it points for sheer length, but otherwise no biggie. 

post #21 of 21

http://www.epicski.com/t/143499/skier-survives-1-600-fall#post_1935207

 

Already a thread on this.  Didn't know it was Ian McIntosh, however.

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