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Question: Best location with good snow condition in early season. [Denver, Utah, or Jackson Hole for 10 days in Dec]

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Thread Starter 

Planning a vacation before Christmas to western resort. Around 10 days(12/12-12/22) to play around. We are all good skiers.

 

Which destination should I pick? Denver? Utah or Jackson Hole?

 

Saw one thread about Colo, want to know more about Utah and JH

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If anyone had the definitive answer to that, they'd stand to make a pretty good living.smile.gif
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Mammoth!  This was from today.  Best big resort nobody goes to.

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Originally Posted by jackskikil View Post
 

Planning a vacation before Christmas to western resort. Around 10 days(12/12-12/22) to play around. We are all good skiers.

 

Which destination should I pick? Denver? Utah or Jackson Hole?

 

Saw one thread about Colo, want to know more about Utah and JH


Welcome to EpicSki!  For the latest on various regions, there are ongoing regional threads, plus a few for specific resorts like Mammoth or Steamboat.  Easiest way to find them is to go the Resorts or Getting Together forums.

 

Here's a thread with tips on how about how to find the regional thread lists:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/143009/introduction-to-epicski-regional-and-resort-threads-for-2015-16-a-beginner-zone-thread

 

What your favorite place out west so far?

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 


Welcome to EpicSki!  For the latest on various regions, there are ongoing regional threads, plus a few for specific resorts like Mammoth or Steamboat.  Easiest way to find them is to go the Resorts or Getting Together forums.

 

Here's a thread with tips on how about how to find the regional thread lists:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/143009/introduction-to-epicski-regional-and-resort-threads-for-2015-16-a-beginner-zone-thread

 

What your favorite place out west so far?


Thanks. The reason I am asking is because I have to book air ticket soon. I never been JH. Always want to try JH. They got 2 feet snow already?!

 

Maybe Breck is a safe bet?

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The answer is in there; you just have to ask and look closely. 

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I know it is frustrating that more folks aren't chiming in, the truth is there is no one definitive answer. Tony Crocker (one of the members here) has a pretty informative site that may help you to narrow down your choices.  http://bestsnow.net

 

Good luck.

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Here's where snow is running ahead or behind normal:

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Altitude wins in early season.
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 

So Den will be a better bet because of lots of resorts?

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So Den will be a better bet because of lots of resorts?


Not necessarily.  It still makes a difference where the storms go in the next month.  If you fly to SLC, that puts you in driving distance of JH and you have Alta/Snowbird right there.  Makes it possible to do both since your trip is 10 days.  Can you fly Southwest?

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Still holding out for SLC been going there for early season skiing on dec 7th. The last couple of years. Of course i fly swa and can cancel my tickets if it looks bad
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Originally Posted by jackskikil View Post
 

We are all good skiers.

 

 

Are you happy with just groomers?   If so, Denver is a safe bet.  

 

If you are hoping for any off-piste terrain, the odds are not great anywhere so it's really hard to say until the last moment.  One big storm can make all the difference in the world early season.

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I would always say Jackson.  Grand Targhee can sometimes outshine Jackson for early snow.

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So far the early season pattern has been a split with storm energy going mostly north but also south of northern Utah. It has resort operators here talking about new tech manmade they're calling Gunpowder.
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Originally Posted by jackskikil View Post

Planning a vacation before Christmas to western resort. Around 10 days(12/12-12/22) to play around. We are all good skiers.

Which destination should I pick? Denver? Utah or Jackson Hole?

Saw one thread about Colo, want to know more about Utah and JH

Where you coming from?

The bigger gateways have more options and you can get deals closer to your departure date. Smaller cities, not do much.

Most resort associations and large travel companies have bulk fares, if you buy a package. While they may not be rock bottom,
you can still get pretty good deals last minute.

Nobody knows where it will be good, until about a week out. Best, a day or two, at most.
post #17 of 22

For one month out now snowfall YTD is almost meaningless.  Any region can/will have a drought or big storm which could instantly change everything - of this you can be assured. 

 

The answer for early Dec one month out is always - the Cottonwood Canyons of SLC.  In early December every day counts and the further forward you can push your trip the better. 

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There is of course no predicting the weather one month out. Going forward everything could change. That said in many years, such as the last few, patterns have established and remained in place for extended periods or the whole season. While there's no knowing whether we're dealing with evolution, not predicting also means not predicting a pattern. Given history and pattern stickiness if I were choosing now, knowing only what we know I would go north. The fact is some years the jet splits.
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For one month out now snowfall YTD is almost meaningless. 

The answer for early Dec one month out is always - the Cottonwood Canyons of SLC.  I

Bullshit.

Some places like Steamboat, BC or Wolf Creek already have 2-3 feet and don't take nearly as much snow to open as the Cottonwwods.
Not taking consideration of snow on the ground, is as stupid as denying climate change.
post #20 of 22

Salt Lake City to fly in to.  That gives you the resorts there.  Jackson Hole and Grand Targhee are a very doable drive.  Your options expand if you are willing to drive a full day in either direction.

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Thread Starter 

I am from mid-Atlantic.

 

Still thinking Denver(Vail or Aspen) or SLC(Alta, PCMR or JH) as my first western mountain experience.

 

So far I prefer Denver.

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Originally Posted by jackskikil View Post
 

I am from mid-Atlantic.

 

Still thinking Denver(Vail or Aspen) or SLC(Alta, PCMR or JH) as my first western mountain experience.

 

So far I prefer Denver.


Have you and your friends slept at over 8000 ft before?  One of the reasons I prefer Utah over Colorado is that it takes me 2-3 days to adjust to the higher altitude in Colorado.  Plus there are many good choices within an hour of the SLC airport.  Denver airfares are a bit lower but takes longer to get any of the ski resorts.  How much have you driven on snowy roads?

 

You mentioned that you are your friends are "good skiers."  Have you been skiing black and double-blacks in the northeast?  Do you all ski bumps runs in the mid-Altantic?

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