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Week Before Xmas ...

post #1 of 22
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How are the I-70 resorts East of Vail ?  Crowded ?  

 

Have direct flights booked for Dec 17th to EGE .. 

 

We usually go to Vail/BC or Aspen/Snowmass....

 

Just watching the weather right now and making sure I have some alternatives .. 

 

Thanks guys 

post #2 of 22

Personally, I'm a big fan of Copper Mountain (my favorite Summit County area). Great variety for all ski levels. If your whole group are advanced skiers, A-Basin would be a great uncrowded option.

post #3 of 22
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Personally, I'm a big fan of Copper Mountain (my favorite Summit County area). Great variety for all ski levels. If your whole group are advanced skiers, A-Basin would be a great uncrowded option.


Thanks - We typically try and get as far away from Denver as possible... I am seriously crowd adverse :-) 

 

Just with the current lack of snow I want to have a few options open if we have to go to plan "D"  ... 

 

Right now its;

 

Plan A = Vail/BC

Plan B = Aspen/Snowmass

Plan C = Steamboat 

Plan D = ? 

 

Mountain with the best snow and most runs open wins !!!!!  

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 

Bump ......

 

Hows it looking out there guys ???

 

Looks like Vail & Beav are doing the best out of my list ?  Maybe Snowmass ? 

 

Booking rooms first week of December ...

 

Thanks in advance !!!  

post #5 of 22
How much was open this past weekend at Vail/BC?

Aspen was better than anything in Suco.

Is Telluride an option?
post #6 of 22
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How much was open this past weekend at Vail/BC?

Aspen was better than anything in Suco.

Is Telluride an option?


T-ride too far from EGE for us ... Think its a 4 hour drive ...

 

We have a big group coming in and some don't like to drive in the snow  ...

 

If it was just me and the kids I would go anywhere !!!! 

post #7 of 22
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Booking rooms first week of December ...

Not necessary now.  Keep watching your A, B and C choices.  Vail and Steamboat have excellent track records in your time frame even in average snow years (which is what we're looking at so far).  Aspen/Snowmass averages less snow but has much less skier traffic so it's worth keeping an eye on too.  I would take any of those 3 options over Summit County, which gets Aspen's level of snowfall, with at least twice the skier traffic.  Skier traffic is especially not desirable in early season when the base is relatively low.

post #8 of 22
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Not necessary now.  Keep watching your A, B and C choices.  Vail and Steamboat have excellent track records in your time frame even in average snow years (which is what we're looking at so far).  Aspen/Snowmass averages less snow but has much less skier traffic so it's worth keeping an eye on too.  I would take any of those 3 options over Summit County, which gets Aspen's level of snowfall, with at least twice the skier traffic.  Skier traffic is especially not desirable in early season when the base is relatively low.


Thanks Tony and I agree 100% ....

 

I check your site regularly - it has been invaluable in our trip planning over the years... 

 

Cheers !!!  

post #9 of 22

Piggybacking on this one...

 

I have a trip planned Dec 12-17.  Not really limited by geography; willing to head to wherever (in North America, that is).  Summit County/Vail/BC looks pretty good so far with almost a month to go, but I was wondering if anyplace else might be worthwhile.  I have trips to Aspen and Alyeska scheduled already this season, and will likely hit Mammoth or Tahoe in March (depending on how the season goes), so I'd probably avoid those in December.  Not buying any plane tickets until a few days before I leave, so I won't decide until last minute, but if anybody has any insight, I'd love to hear it.

post #10 of 22

I'd add NM and southern CO to your list.  Then just wait as long as possible to book.  

There will be lots of trip reports after Thanksgiving and you'll be able to get a much better idea of who is skiing well.

 

Skier traffic has a huge effect on surface conditions early season. 

The skiing was really good this weekend in Aspen.  But we had 2500 skiers Saturday, which is a big day for Aspen and only 15-20% of the terrain.  

Add another 1500 on Sunday, with warm temps and it showed by the end of the day.

Luckily,  it snowed 7" and another storms coming Friday.

post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post
 

Not necessary now.  Keep watching your A, B and C choices.  Vail and Steamboat have excellent track records in your time frame even in average snow years (which is what we're looking at so far).  Aspen/Snowmass averages less snow but has much less skier traffic so it's worth keeping an eye on too.  I would take any of those 3 options over Summit County, which gets Aspen's level of snowfall, with at least twice the skier traffic.  Skier traffic is especially not desirable in early season when the base is relatively low.

 

The week before Christmas is empty everywhere, including Summit County, and especially Copper Mountain.   The best advice is to wait until the last minute, then go to the snow.   The warm November and December last year resulted in WAY better skiing conditions at the higher elevation resorts of Summit County than the rest of Colorado.  It rained in Vail and Steamboat.

 

I think you'd be surprised how empty Copper is on a weekday.   The Epic Pass continues to take market share.    Copper's annual skier visits/skiable acres is likely similar to Steamboat and Beaver Creek, but Copper has a longer season and more weekend day-trippers from Denver.  That leaves it really empty during the week, making a Monday thru Friday destination trip a great value.

post #12 of 22
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 The week before Christmas is empty everywhere

Doesn't it depend on what day of the week Xmas is and when school break starts? We go to Sun Valley before Xmas each year, leaving SV usually on the Sunday before Xmas, and BAM! the Saturday night before Xmas is when everyone else arrives. This year Xmas is on a Friday, so kids have that whole week off (starting the 20th, and really break starts the 17th). 

post #13 of 22
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 The week before Christmas is empty everywhere

Doesn't it depend on what day of the week Xmas is and when school break starts? We go to Sun Valley before Xmas each year, leaving usually on the Sunday before Xmas, and BAM! the Saturday night before Xmas is when everyone else arrives. This year Xmas is on a Friday, so kids have that whole week off (starting the 20th, and really break starts the 17th). 


Even if kids are out of school, still depends on when parents are available.  Also, there are families who want to be home through Dec. 25 or Dec. 26.  My daughter is joining friends for a ski week in Montana but they are not leaving until after Dec. 24.

 

It looks like NYC and Boston public schools do not start winter break until Dec. 24.

post #14 of 22

So from a quick check, the Denver area schools (Denver, Boulder, Jeffco, Adams, Douglas) are on vacation starting Monday the 21st, so that week won't be empty.  The prior week will be truly empty.  

 

Historically, though, even the front range ski areas won't be crowded until after Christmas.  A powder day will draw folks up from Denver before Xmas, but otherwise they are busy getting ready for the holiday.   It's the week between Christmas and New Years that is the worst.

post #15 of 22
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BTT.......  Not sure if it makes sense to hold off another week for the next round of storms.... but right now its looking like Vail or Beav ....

 

Any last suggestions from the braintrust ... :-) 

post #16 of 22
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BTT.......  Not sure if it makes sense to hold off another week for the next round of storms

Later is always safer in December for getting more terrain open, until you hit Christmas and the crowd/cost factors take over.

post #17 of 22
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Later is always safer in December for getting more terrain open, until you hit Christmas and the crowd/cost factors take over.


I actually meant wait another week before booking the condo/hotel...... Flights are booked for Dec 18th-23rd .... 

 

Unless the next storms are significant - it looks like Vail/BC have the best snow out of my choices ... 

post #18 of 22
Wait till the the 13th to book. Aspen opened more terrain today. Next storm hits late this week. Highlands, Buttermilf and Snowmass will all open lots of new terrain next Saturday.
I'll post up a report.

What's your situation?
House, condo or hotel?
Slope side,walking to town or budget?
Do you already have properties in mind?
Resort association, VRBO or Travelocity?
post #19 of 22

Vail has had twice as much snow as Aspen so far this season.  Vail/BC looks like the right choice so far, but I would still give it another week before booking lodging. 

post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

Wait till the the 13th to book. Aspen opened more terrain today. Next storm hits late this week. Highlands, Buttermilf and Snowmass will all open lots of new terrain next Saturday.
I'll post up a report.

What's your situation?
House, condo or hotel?
Slope side,walking to town or budget?
Do you already have properties in mind?
Resort association, VRBO or Travelocity?

 

Thanks !!!!  

 

There are 8 of us (father & kids trip) ...  1 Condo/townhouse (4 bedrooms or 3 plus loft ),,,,, Slope side or short walk,,,,, looking at various places around skating rink at BC (Poste Montane/St. James/ etc)  and at the main village Snowmass,,, we use Mountain reservations and vrbo ... budget under 3k a night ...    

 

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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post
 

Vail has had twice as much snow as Aspen so far this season.  Vail/BC looks like the right choice so far, but I would still give it another week before booking lodging. 

 

Thanks guys - I will hold off until the 13th .... 

post #21 of 22

Have you made reservations?

 

Steamboat and Telluride got the most out of this last system, but I think you'd be good just about anywhere.

There are more storms lined up this week.

You should have a really good time!

post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
 

Have you made reservations?

 

Steamboat and Telluride got the most out of this last system, but I think you'd be good just about anywhere.

There are more storms lined up this week.

You should have a really good time!


We locked into Beaver Creek ..... Figured between that and Vail there are over 200 runs open.... 

 

Gear is packed ... Will be there Friday by lunchtime !!!!!  

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