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Conditions in European resorts 2015-2016

post #1 of 27
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Just a few pics of the Kitzsteinhorn Glacier (Kaprun, Austria), last week....

 

From 17 - 24 October I was at Kaprun for Landes 1 ski instructor training. Thought I'd share some pics...

 

Upon arrival (Oct. 17): nice contrast - snowy tops and autumny valley...

 

Sunday 18 October: sunny op top

 

Monday 19 October: snow day, great for powder and mogul training

 

After that: blue sky and superb snow all week... just enjoy

 

Technical challenges...

 

And a bit more great quality snow

 

More as the season progresses.

post #2 of 27
Great photos!
I just booked a week there in early January, 2-9.
The snow is loking good already! Hopefully there'll be lots more by the time I get there...

Can't wait! biggrin.gif
post #3 of 27

Respected US weather sites are predicting a cold European winter.

post #4 of 27

Any comments on the early conditions in St Anton?   Am looking at a trip there 1st week March 2016

post #5 of 27
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Any comments on the early conditions in St Anton?   Am looking at a trip there 1st week March 2016


In general it's been pretty warm and sparse in Europe.  Obviously higher up is better.  The bottom of Kitzbuhel is a sunny 6C today..  March is still a long way off though, don't get too discouraged.

post #6 of 27

BUMP

 

Note that in general threads about skiing outside North America are in the International Zone under EpicSki Community.  I realize that's an odd place, but it was put there long before I ran across EpicSki.  Can use the Forums Nav or the drop down from the menu bar to go to International Zone from any EpicSki webpage.

 

post #7 of 27

I am afraid that European ski season is not shaping up to be a great one. My January trip to the Alps might be substituted by "El Nino" trips. Loss of frequent flyer "redeposit" fee but gain on multiple trips to the Rockies if using BA miles. 

I am a "hard core" proponent of skiing in Europe, but I have to admit this year will be a bust. 

 

MCP should help.

post #8 of 27

Going to be in Germany/Switzerland/Austria area for all of January, any suggestions? Certainly must be better off than the East Coast?!

post #9 of 27
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Going to be in Germany/Switzerland/Austria area for all of January, any suggestions? Certainly must be better off than the East Coast?!


Maybe not..  Switzerland just had the warmest December on record.  Worst at higher elevs.  Cross your fingers..  :(

post #10 of 27
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Respected US weather sites are predicting a cold European winter.

No weather site that predicts the winter on November 1 should get much respect IMHO.  This is one of those predictions that may go down in infamy.

post #11 of 27

I've been in Zermatt the last 10 days and conditions are not good. Hasn't snowed in over a month. High up on the glacier is OK most of the day, although it does get skied out from about mid-day. Mid-mountain down is like spring skiing. Almost no advanced runs are open and little to no off piste. And from reports this is one of the best places in the Alps right now. If you're going to be here anyway it's better than not skiing, but I wouldn't make a trip for it. 

post #12 of 27
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Respected US weather sites are predicting a cold European winter.

No weather site that predicts the winter on November 1 should get much respect IMHO.  This is one of those predictions that may go down in infamy.


It's not working out for Europe, clearly — at least not yet.

 

For the US, they've been pretty much spot-on.

post #13 of 27
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For the US, they've been pretty much spot-on.

I don't think so.   The PNW and western Canada were supposed to be shorted during a big El Nino and they have had the most snow in North America in November/December.

 

Really, November/December ski area weather has basically had nothing to do with El Nino, though in fairness some forecasters have said that the El Nino effects wouldn't be strong until January.  That was true to some extent in 1982-83 and very much so in 1997-98.

 

A strong El Nino is a good forecasting tool for the ski season overall but not for a specific short time frame beyond the ~2 week window for which short term forecasting is useful.

post #14 of 27
We're still running behind here in Montana, as forecast. Snowpack:

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Forecast for Dec Jan Feb back in November:

post #15 of 27

We are having an above average early season in Western Canada. Last weekend at Sun Peaks 5-10cm was predicted but we got 32cm. It is not a surprise that the hotels are 100% booked for the entire week.

 

Bookings are very strong for the rest of the season so I guess the skiing public has decided that great Xmas conditions means great season long conditions. Or maybe it is because there is no snow at the resorts in eastern Canada, poor conditions in Europe, and the cheap Canadian dollar is attracting extra Washington skiers.:dunno

post #16 of 27
Since there's a 20% fall off in bookings here, I think it's the exchange rate. That's good news for President's Week, IMO.
post #17 of 27
Quote = DanoT:
Bookings are very strong for the rest of the season so I guess the skiing public has decided that great Xmas conditions means great season long conditions. Or maybe it is because there is no snow at the resorts in eastern Canada, poor conditions in Europe, and the cheap Canadian dollar is attracting extra Washington skiers.:dunno

All of these reasons are probably true.  It is a demonstrated fact that season skier visits correlate closer to November/December snowfall than they do to total season snowfall. 

 

Quote = sibhusky:
We're still running behind here in Montana, as forecast.

Barely, and look at WA, OR, and ID on that map.  Idaho has suffered mightily vs. Montana the past two seasons, so I'm sure they are appreciating the turnaround this season.

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post #19 of 27
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This was all true until one week ago. Since then, it has been dumping continuously in the French and Swiss Alps, resulting in over 1.5 meters of snow above 1800 metres, considerable avalanche hazard as well. 

post #20 of 27

Yes, you're doing better than we are. 

post #21 of 27
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post #22 of 27

 

Yes bleak because of high avalanche danger due to TOO MUCH SNOW!

The above article is ABSURD!!! 

Didn't the writer even bother to check the snow reports and forecasts and see that everything has completely turned around in the past two weeks!  I'm headed to the Alps in two weeks and am considering creating a little shrine to ask Ullr to lay off for a little bit so that the many feet of new snow can stabilize.

post #23 of 27

I don't know about absurd — it did say that after New Year's, snow had fallen.  It's not up to date, right, but it talks about the Euro ski industry in general and long-term trends.

post #24 of 27
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Verbier today:

post #25 of 27
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Verbier today:

 

 

Even Kitz is coming around.

post #26 of 27
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Verbier today:


That looks like enough snow.  Really, it looks like it is around here (except it's about 1.82 meters deeper and not made of ice).

post #27 of 27
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Val Thorens (France) this morning... Finally some sun to go with the powder.

 

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