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post #1 of 4
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Hey! New to the forum and hoping someone can help me out. Very new to skiing, went for the first time at the end of last season  and had a blast. Was looking into purchasing a set of skis for this year and a coworker of mine gave me a set of HEAD skis he knows nothing about and was going to throw away. I literally know nothing on the subject and wanted to pick some brains before I go and toss them in the trash/give them away.

 

What I know:

-They say HEAD Cyber 18 X L on them
-Have 8/160 602979 written on the sides
-Salomon bindings

 

What I would like to know?

-How old are these things? Are they outdated to a point where it makes no sense to use them with today's technology?

-What does the writing on the side mean? Is this the size?

-I'm 5' 9" and around 170 lbs. Would these work OK for me? I've heard for a beginner I should look for skis that are about chin height?

 

Any other info anyone can provide on these skis would be awesome!

 

Thanks!

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moderator Note: moved from Beginner Zone (under Ski Training) to Ski Gear (under On The Snow Skiing)

post #2 of 4
Welcome to Epic!

First of all, let's leave aside the skis. What you need first is boots. Spend some time perusing boot threads and you'll see this again and again. They are how you control your ski, so they are your most important piece of equipment.

You hold the boots to the skis with bindings. So it's important that they function correctly. I don't know what bindings they are, but they look pretty old (I think the skis are from about 2000), so there is a question whether they are indemnified. If they are not on the list, no shop will work on them. And they are going to need to be fitted to your boots. Post the model here and maybe someone can tell you if they are on that list.

The side numbers are your serial number for the ski.

The skis appear to be fairly straight, and maybe long, for a beginner skier, but I'll let the experts on skis weigh in.

The "L" was for ladies. Here are the stats I found for a 170:

Head Cyber 18X(L) Ladies Skis - 170cm

Size: 170cm
Radius: 27
Sidecut 92-62-82mm


I'm leaning towards tossing them.
post #3 of 4

The bindings might be the biggest problem on those skis, about 1999 vintage.  The binding makers indemnify ski shops for current bindings.  You don't mention the model of the Salomon bindings, but it is unlikely they are on the current indemnification list, so most responsible shops won't touch them, either to lubricate, adjust, or test.

 

The skis are probably very mediocre.  I taught one beginner who worked in IT for a large local retailer.  He told me that he chose his new skis as the cheapest in the returns barrel at work.  I told him that they were suitable to be put back into the barrel.  The skis held back even this beginner.  You'll likely do better with rental skis to start or suitable modern used skis.

 

Yes to good boots.  Any of us can ski better on our carefully chosen, properly fitted boots and any garage sale skis (even those you have) rather than vice versa.  Note that I said fitted.  More than properly fitting.  Big difference.  The good boot fitter will look at your feet, ask your ability, consider your size, and pick the boot with the correct dimensions and flex for you.  Here's a short video from an Epic contributor:  http://lous.ca/services/

Note that fit is everything.  We move our legs to control the skis.  We need the boot to accurately transfer those movements to the skis.  Slop in the boot makes for poor skiing.  A comfy boot is probably a terrible boot.  A snug, well fitted boot is both excellent for control and comfortable all day.  I've sent ski students back to the rental shop to get boots a full shell-size* smaller; they were making the correct movements and not getting the responses from their skis in their too-big boots.

 

 

*Often boot half-sizes are just thicker liners.  Shell sizes change every full size, or even greater size differences.  The full range of videos above shows the right way to size boots and how the skilled fitters in the shop adjusts them.  Fitters can make parts of a boot bigger.  They can't make them smaller.  Even a bit too big greatly harms skiing.

post #4 of 4
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Originally Posted by ksarge91 View Post
 

Hey! New to the forum and hoping someone can help me out. Very new to skiing, went for the first time at the end of last season  and had a blast. Was looking into purchasing a set of skis for this year and a coworker of mine gave me a set of HEAD skis he knows nothing about and was going to throw away. I literally know nothing on the subject and wanted to pick some brains before I go and toss them in the trash/give them away.

 

What I know:

-They say HEAD Cyber 18 X L on them
-Have 8/160 602979 written on the sides
-Salomon bindings

 

What I would like to know?

-How old are these things? Are they outdated to a point where it makes no sense to use them with today's technology?

-What does the writing on the side mean? Is this the size?

-I'm 5' 9" and around 170 lbs. Would these work OK for me? I've heard for a beginner I should look for skis that are about chin height?

 

Any other info anyone can provide on these skis would be awesome!

 

Thanks!

Kevin

 

[snip pics of skis]

 

Welcome to EpicSki!  It helps a bit to know what region you plan to ski in this season.

 

I suggest you take a look at the EpicSki Articles under First Run (click on Articles in the menu bar).

 

Have you heard of the idea of a season lease?  Or a ski swap?

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