Originally Posted by ScotsSkier
If you think about it the SUV, with a few exceptions like the remaining body on frame ones, is fast becoming wussified into a wagon like you guys want. Look at the new 16 Audi Q7, latest gen bmw x5 and they are much more like wagons now than trucks. ( or worse still, the Nissan Pathfinder which is pretty much a minivan. Only extra it doesn't have is the paper bag to cover your head so you don't get seen driving it...
. The suby OB is no longer that distiinctly different
Or most of the "CUVs" which are getting closer to a hot hatchback. Not a bad thing from a handling perspective tho! In fact mrs scotsskier's macan turbo is remarkably similar in size to the Astra GTE (UK model) I had which was a Top ranking hot hatch in 1983!
Of course the macan has 4 times the power and infinitely superior handling....can't think of too many sedans or wagons that out handle this CUV...
Interestingly enough there is also some movement of people who would previously have bought full-size SUVs to real trucks instead. If you look at F150 sales >80% are the four door crew cab version with a short (5.5') bed, not what you would necessarily associate with a work truck. And top end versions can run >$60k complete with all the latest technology. I don't have numbers for Chevy and ram but I suspect they are similar.
CUV's do typically start with a regular sedan/wagon platform, which really started with the original Lexus RX300, as it was based on a Camry platform.
the 2nd gen Q7 uses a car platform this time around, instead of a dedicated platform shared with the Touareg and Cayenne during the 1st gen
Mrs ScotsSkier Macan is based on a Q5, which its platform is shared with the A4, A5, A6, A7 & A8
ironically, though, the Benz R-class, took a SUV platform (ML-series), then lowered to a regular car.