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Olin is back ?!?

post #1 of 35
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Olin Ski I thought Olin went away.. Last I heard K2 was making them but in looking at the web site the headquarters is in Springfield Ma? I also saw an ad that had a 'new" Mark IV.. in orange, but it is not on the web site.. Who know the details?
post #2 of 35
I can't say for sure if these are new skis slated for production, but check out that sidecut for the DTsl: 100/67/90? That seems like it is straight outta 1999....

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post #3 of 35
OK, so choice is a good thing.

And maybe having the Olin brand back in the marketplace is, likewise, a good thing.

But my reaction is SO WHAT.

Now, if you had said you found a warehouse full of the park benches Olin sold to their dealers in the seventies - using Olin MKII V.C.E. skis for the seat and back - I would have said "Where? How much!"

Signed A Wet Blanket in Utah :
post #4 of 35
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Originally posted by dawgcatching:
I can't say for sure if these are new skis slated for production, but check out that sidecut for the DTsl: 100/67/90? That seems like it is straight outta 1999....
Hey, I just bought my first pair of ski's, Olin Dtsl's I'm not very familiar with interpreting excactly how the dimensions play into the performance. What did you mean by "straight outta 1999"?
post #5 of 35
I wonder what they'll give me for a pair of 220cm Olin Mark Vs circa 1985. Currently used as structural supports to the house, fencepost drivers and children displiners.
post #6 of 35
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Originally posted by midwestsucks:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dawgcatching:
I can't say for sure if these are new skis slated for production, but check out that sidecut for the DTsl: 100/67/90? That seems like it is straight outta 1999....
Hey, I just bought my first pair of ski's, Olin Dtsl's I'm not very familiar with interpreting excactly how the dimensions play into the performance. What did you mean by "straight outta 1999"?</font>[/quote]What I meant is that the sidecut in the early days of the shaped ski wasn't as "shaped" as it is today. Skis with less shape were skied longer, and handle traditional (weighting/unweighting) technique better than a modern ski. No modern ski that I know of has that little sidecut-it just doesn't seem like it would be that much fun. Even most GS skis these days have a bit more sidecut than that (104/64/88 for my Blizzard 182cm's). A wider tip and tail gives you a smaller turn radius, and allows the ski to be skied in shorter lenghts. I haven't personally skied the new Olins, but due to the lack of sidecut, I would doubt they ski as well as a modern ski. If the DTsl is infact a slalom ski, it should have way more sidecut and something like a 12m turn radius. It should be more in the range of 114/64/100. The dimensions listed on the website is a GS-type sidecut, which may have made sense in the late 1990's, but things have changed much since then.

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post #7 of 35
Looking at the Olin line-up they appear to be producing intermediate level skis that are probably stable, forgiving and accomodate skidded turns well. This also was Olin's target population for the last few years before they dropped off the radar screen. I don't know who owns the Olin name now.
post #8 of 35
I heard that the Olin Dtsl's are "soft". Does this mean that they flex more?
post #9 of 35
I am sure glad Olin is back. They fill the niche for low-income aspiring skiers.

What I remember from my old '99 Catalysts is they are soft - but not torsionally; that allows them to perform fairly well on ice. In powder they sink just above knees (I tried them on Mt. Hood on a powder day in 6 ft of fresh); in crud they may give you a bumpy ride, unless you stay in control: too light to cut through it. But they perform equally well at all speeds: I clocked 50 mph on a wax day on them; did a couple of good SG runs. For intermediate and low advanced skiers they are among the best.

Very forgiving, like a mature workhorse: will always do whatever the master tells it to do, and will never complain: want to go fast - they will go fast; want to carve - they will carve; want to do powder - they will sigh, but will get you down.

That's the Catalyst. I don't know how the DTsl perform: never tried them, but I saw some of our league racers on them - just before Olin disappeared into the bowels of K2 - and then K2 suddenly came up with new excellent skis - and moved to China.

I would love to try the new Olins.

[ November 21, 2003, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: AlexG ]
post #10 of 35
Olin made quite a small range of skis just before K2 gave them the chop so to speak. Of them the Apex NT, Apex K and Apex T were all GS skis geared to advanced skiers and certainly the last Apex T was not "soft" at all , it had 2 layers of titanal in it. :
post #11 of 35
Too bad for me that the Apex and DTsl were out of my price range at the time
post #12 of 35
ya they are nice i like mine a lot
post #13 of 35
 Dogtown, what other skis do you have besides the Olin's? I see you have a LINE ad in your avatar. 
post #14 of 35
i heard in the 70's the olins parent company was a military contractor??? Just wondered if anyone heard the same
post #15 of 35
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i heard in the 70's the olins parent company was a military contractor??? Just wondered if anyone heard the same

I remember seeing bullets with the Olin logo. 
post #16 of 35
Olin's an interesting company, with quite a history. They are an alkali producing company, basically (pun intended!), and as the owner of Winchester, they also make bullets. Bleach and bullets--talk about diversification! I think skis were just a byproduct, or maybe a clever way to get rid of toxic waste. What did they make them out of, anyway?

They did make some decent skis in their day. The Olin Mark IV Comp (not to be confused with the regular Mark IV) was an iconic mogul ski, and one of the first twin-tips, with its upturned tail (which, actually, was a nuisance in moguls). A pair of Mark IV Comps with Tyrolia "Diagonal" bindings were the first skis I ever had stolen.



Here's Olin's website, and a Wikipedia entry for Olin Corporation.

Best regards,
Bob
post #17 of 35
I dont like to be a downer but I throw this up for amusement purposes.   IMHO Im not too sure olin coming back is really a good thing. 

First of all, to our circle of skiers, even 30 years ago when i was 10-14 years old,  Olin was always considered "totally uncool."  The brand association still hurts decades later.  And for the record i really do dig the whole current retro thing.  But believe me, decades into my skiing career, id still rather be on a pair of 200-205cm atomics, blizzards, USA made K2s  or dynamics before id strap an OLIN to my boots. Even on a spring retro day. Am I the only one out there who looks at olins are the Saturday night fever/"two wild and crazy guys"/ Latka Gravis aka Vic ferrari of skiing?

Think about it this way. Presently, do you know any 18-25 year old's who actually desire a buick? (note im a GM family).   Well to me olin is as cool as a buick sedan.

Secondly, there are already so many brands already that it may give the novice skier overload. Why add to the brands when there are so many already? Frankly unless Olin can reinvent themselves ala converse,  im forever scarred by the olin personality skiers. 

Disclaimer: i grew up skiing at NJ's Great Gorge and NYs Huntahhhh...that may explain everything
post #18 of 35
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Originally Posted by Bob Barnes View Post

Olin's an interesting company, with quite a history. They are an alkali producing company, basically (pun intended!), and as the owner of Winchester, they also make bullets. Bleach and bullets--talk about diversification! I think skis were just a byproduct, or maybe a clever way to get rid of toxic waste. What did they make them out of, anyway?

They did make some decent skis in their day. The Olin Mark IV Comp (not to be confused with the regular Mark IV) was an iconic mogul ski, and one of the first twin-tips, with its upturned tail (which, actually, was a nuisance in moguls). A pair of Mark IV Comps with Tyrolia "Diagonal" bindings were the first skis I ever had stolen.



Here's Olin's website, and a Wikipedia entry for Olin Corporation.

Best regards,
Bob

Wow, First your bike and now your skis!  You need a good lock!
post #19 of 35
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Originally Posted by kbuzz View Post

I dont like to be a downer but I throw this up for amusement purposes.   IMHO Im not too sure olin coming back is really a good thing. 

First of all, to our circle of skiers, even 30 years ago when i was 10-14 years old,  Olin was always considered "totally uncool."  The brand association still hurts decades later.  And for the record i really do dig the whole current retro thing.  But believe me, decades into my skiing career, id still rather be on a pair of 200-205cm atomics, blizzards, USA made K2s  or dynamics before id strap an OLIN to my boots. Even on a spring retro day. Am I the only one out there who looks at olins are the Saturday night fever/"two wild and crazy guys"/ Latka Gravis aka Vic ferrari of skiing?

Think about it this way. Presently, do you know any 18-25 year old's who actually desire a buick? (note im a GM family).   Well to me olin is as cool as a buick sedan.

Secondly, there are already so many brands already that it may give the novice skier overload. Why add to the brands when there are so many already? Frankly unless Olin can reinvent themselves ala converse,  im forever scarred by the olin personality skiers. 

Disclaimer: i grew up skiing at NJ's Great Gorge and NYs Huntahhhh...that may explain everything
Look at the date of the original post....2003. 
post #20 of 35
Duh...my bad ....nice waste of a 10 minute rant in an attempt to be funny......
post #21 of 35
Originally Posted by Bob Barnes

Olin's an interesting company, with quite a history. They are an alkali producing company, basically (pun intended!), and as the owner of Winchester, they also make bullets. Bleach and bullets--talk about diversification! I think skis were just a byproduct, or maybe a clever way to get rid of toxic waste. What did they make them out of, anyway? They did make some decent skis in their day. The Olin Mark IV Comp (not to be confused with the regular Mark IV) was an iconic mogul ski, and one of the first twin-tips, with its upturned tail (which, actually, was a nuisance in moguls). A pair of Mark IV Comps with Tyrolia "Diagonal" bindings were the first skis I ever had stolen.
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Maybe there was only a very few pairs of these and we all bought the same ones. A pair of Mark IV Comps was the ONLY pair of skis I ever had stolen, but I had the Soli pair.
post #22 of 35
sup yal
post #23 of 35
I would like to add that I had a pair of the DTSls that I purchased in 98 and they made me a hot-rodding hellion.. I was skiing a lot and improving and those skis made me better. Sadly, I took time off and found that I could no long reap the benefits of those boards. They were well made and gave agressive feedback here in the east. Loved them and miss them, I traded them in for some shaped K2s that I should have really tried out before buying. Loved the K2 threes that were stolen, but my apaches are WAY too weak.
post #24 of 35
Interesting. I hated the Olin DTSL's that I bought around the same time.  Even then they were made by K2. Basically they were a detuned and softer K2 slalom ski. Every time I skied on them I kicked myself for getting rid of my then 15-year old Atomic SL's, which I would probably still use if I had them.
post #25 of 35
For me, they were a step up from the K2 threes. I wanted something at a slightly higher price point, but not as much as the Fours. They fit the bill for me. If you feel they were too soft, then you got skis that were beneath your level b/c they were aimed at making intermediate skiers into advanced-expert skiers. BELIEVE ME, I read up on them extensively as to what to get for my skill level. I over-research everything. It usually pays off with the exception of my current boards.
post #26 of 35
My parents still have 2 pairs of Olins in the garage. There's definitely a blue pair of Olin Mark IVs, and then there's a white pair with light green-ish stripes that may or may not be Olins -- I can't remember. Both pairs were both purchased in the mid-70's. I'll check them out next time I'm home.

I tried out the white ones maybe 2 years ago just for kicks, and while they were definitely harder to get up on edge, the overall experience wasn't terrible. :)
post #27 of 35
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Originally Posted by rachelv View Post

My parents still have 2 pairs of Olins in the garage. There's definitely a blue pair of Olin Mark IVs, and then there's a white pair with light green-ish stripes that may or may not be Olins -- I can't remember. Both pairs were both purchased in the mid-70's. I'll check them out next time I'm home.

I tried out the white ones maybe 2 years ago just for kicks, and while they were definitely harder to get up on edge, the overall experience wasn't terrible. :)
You totally shoulda' skied them with Tog at Stowe!!
post #28 of 35
I have a couple of pairs left .
post #29 of 35
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Originally Posted by rachelv View Post

My parents still have 2 pairs of Olins in the garage. There's definitely a blue pair of Olin Mark IVs, and then there's a white pair with light green-ish stripes that may or may not be Olins -- I can't remember. Both pairs were both purchased in the mid-70's. I'll check them out next time I'm home.

I tried out the white ones maybe 2 years ago just for kicks, and while they were definitely harder to get up on edge, the overall experience wasn't terrible. :)

IIRC, the Mark VI was dark blue.  The Mark IV was orange.
post #30 of 35
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IIRC, the Mark VI was dark blue.  The Mark IV was orange.


 III and III"S" were blue, the VI was first Green then later Black. 
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