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post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

This is like a casual pot smoker asking pot heads why they shouldn't move to Colorado or Washington, but here we go...

Kastle BMX 105 HP.... Powder ski, new snow all mountain do the do deal. Haven't skied it, but playing with in the rack, I can't imagine it would be any less than stellar and incredibly versatile. I was thinking about an MX 98, but given that the majority of my ski days (yes, even in the west) are on 80-85 width skis and the current powder skis only make it out in 12"+ , I'd have a more useful ski that would work more days. I could sell the current 98-100 and the fat board. The goal is a tight 3 ski quiver:

Head Titan (81) , Rev 85 pro (might be upgraded to a Monster 88), and the aforementioned BMX 105 HP. Talk me into or out of this. smile.gif


That Kastle is a sexy beast.  You know you want to fondle its supple shape. 

post #32 of 54
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Pih.    Mine would have me skiing Kneissl Telestars.

Saw a pair of Flexon Tankers yesterday. smile.gif
post #33 of 54
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That Kastle is a sexy beast.  You know you want to fondle its supple shape. 

Already have. Just wondering if I want to pay for the privilege.
post #34 of 54
Wait........I forgot, how silly of me. The obvious answer is the Fischer Motive 95 in 180.
post #35 of 54

Thinking along the same lines of a 3-ski quiver, I picked these up about a month ago: (which is why it's still Summer here btw)

 

These are going to be my middle ski @100mm. On the narrow side, I'm thinking of a Solly TNT 171cm, or Q85 174cm. Both are 85mm waist, but thinking the Q85 will be more versatile, and 171cm is just too damn short. On the wide side, I've already got a pair of Fatypus I-Rock flat tails in 176cm, 126mm waist, but honestly, it's going to have to be pretty deep to justify leaving the Rocker2 100's in the roof box.

 

FWIW, after playing around with a 112mm D-Sender (no early rise), the I-Rocks, and a pair of Rocker2 92's, I'm pretty well convinced that there's no good reason to have anything in the quiver much over 100mm for the majority of conditions that I typically encounter in the front range.

 

Also FWIW, I've used the I-Rocks about 50/50 for IB and touring. They're kind of overkill for both, but I find the extra width helps keep me above the sharks at low tide. I'm kind of tempted to pull the barons, mount up a spare set of griffons, drop some weight, and turn the into designated IB deep day boards, but then I'll have nothing to tour on, which is kind of OK since the wife hates me touring anyway, and frankly, I'm kind of over it. Not over it enough to sell off my gear just yet; if I do suddenly feel the urge to tour, I'll still need the airbag and stud finder...


Edited by MT Skull - 10/17/15 at 1:11pm
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post

Marko, you and I have similar priotities, though you are no doubt a far superior skier.

My suggestion is get the Kastle. Because you can. Once you have some time on it you would be in a better position to decide whether you need your 118 powder ski.

Next, do you feel you can teach any class you are likely to be assigned on your Titans? If you had to choose between the Rev 85 and the Titan, which would it be? Does an upgrade to Monster change that?

Does a quiver of Titan-BMX105HP-powder sound more appealing than Titan-Monster 88-BMX105HP?

 

Add me to the list of people who have actually seen MarkOJP ski (Natalie's clinic @ Crystal Mt. last March; I recognized Mark by his 184cm Rev 85s).  Yes, Mark skis quite well.

 

Personally, I would never pay top dollar for a premium ski that I've never skied before.  Now if Mark skied the BMX 105 HP before and is confident that they will ski the way he wants them to in all conditions he wants he wants to ski them in, then he has something to seriously consider.  Of course he could always sit tight and demo the Monster 108 against the BMX 105 HP and potentially save himself some money by going with the Monster 108.  

 

I just got done demoing about 18 different skis (some more than once) before settling on my Rev 98s as a PNW mid-fat.  Some skis (Rossi S3) ski fresh powder nicely, but can't handle our refrozen PNW crud (too soft flexing).  Other skis (Line Prophet 98) can handle the crud, but don't work well in powder (tips dive).  My Rev 98s are one of the few that does both really well.  The wide tip with early rise (ERA 3.0) planes up in fresh powder, and the stiff tip blasts through our nastier PNW crud conditions better than most skis.

 

One other advantage with the Monster 108s over the BMX 105 HP: Mark can leave the M108s laying around the resort while he's teaching a lesson on his R85s and not worry as much about someone permanently borrowing them.  :dunno

post #37 of 54
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Add me to the list of people who have actually seen MarkOJP ski (Natalie's clinic @ Crystal Mt. last March; I recognized Mark by his 184cm Rev 85s).  Yes, Mark skis quite well.

 

Personally, I would never pay top dollar for a premium ski that I've never skied before.  Now if Mark skied the BMX 105 HP before and is confident that they will ski the way he wants them to in all conditions he wants he wants to ski them in, then he has something to seriously consider.  Of course he could always sit tight and demo the Monster 108 against the BMX 105 HP and potentially save himself some money by going with the Monster 108.  

 

I just got done demoing about 18 different skis (some more than once) before settling on my Rev 98s as a PNW mid-fat.  Some skis (Rossi S3) ski fresh powder nicely, but can't handle our refrozen PNW crud (too soft flexing).  Other skis (Line Prophet 98) can handle the crud, but don't work well in powder (tips dive).  My Rev 98s are one of the few that does both really well.  The wide tip with early rise (ERA 3.0) planes up in fresh powder, and the stiff tip blasts through our nastier PNW crud conditions better than most skis.

 

One other advantage with the Monster 108s over the BMX 105 HP: Mark can leave the M108s laying around the resort while he's teaching a lesson on his R85s and not worry as much about someone permanently borrowing them.  :dunno

 

Dude, that was waaay too much sense. What a buzz kill.

post #38 of 54
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Dude, that was waaay too much sense. What a buzz kill.

 

Okay, good point.  That means Mark has already bought the BMX 105 HP.

post #39 of 54
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Add me to the list of people who have actually seen MarkOJP ski (Natalie's clinic @ Crystal Mt. last March; I recognized Mark by his 184cm Rev 85s).  Yes, Mark skis quite well.

 

Personally, I would never pay top dollar for a premium ski that I've never skied before.  Now if Mark skied the BMX 105 HP before and is confident that they will ski the way he wants them to in all conditions he wants he wants to ski them in, then he has something to seriously consider.  Of course he could always sit tight and demo the Monster 108 against the BMX 105 HP and potentially save himself some money by going with the Monster 108.  

 

I just got done demoing about 18 different skis (some more than once) before settling on my Rev 98s as a PNW mid-fat.  Some skis (Rossi S3) ski fresh powder nicely, but can't handle our refrozen PNW crud (too soft flexing).  Other skis (Line Prophet 98) can handle the crud, but don't work well in powder (tips dive).  My Rev 98s are one of the few that does both really well.  The wide tip with early rise (ERA 3.0) planes up in fresh powder, and the stiff tip blasts through our nastier PNW crud conditions better than most skis.

 

One other advantage with the Monster 108s over the BMX 105 HP: Mark can leave the M108s laying around the resort while he's teaching a lesson on his R85s and not worry as much about someone permanently borrowing them.  :dunno

 

You suck at enabling.

post #40 of 54
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You guuuuyz r funny! smile.gif

I've skied the Monster 108 and if I were just charging around Crystal Mt. crud at mach looney all the time, they might have a place in the closet. Its a serious big boy stick, more like the old metal BMX 108 from what I've heard. The BMX 105 HP is a more well balanced ski, and no, I haven't made a decision. If it isn't a BMX, it'll be an Enforcer. Tough tough to go wrong either way... or with a Head Collective. Not too worried about theft. I'll have a locker.
post #41 of 54
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

This is like a casual pot smoker asking pot heads why they shouldn't move to Colorado or Washington, but here we go...

Head Titan (81) , Rev 85 pro (might be upgraded to a Monster 88), and the aforementioned BMX 105 HP. Talk me into or out of this. smile.gif

:rotflmao: Gotta like someone who can write. And has a locker. 

 

BMX 108 never had metal, FWIW. But it was a serious ski, agree. 

 

Anyway, IMHO, this is easy. You have ridiculous quiver compression. A Titan (fine ski) negates any conceivable need for something else in the 80's. But if you really like the REV's for different purposes, then the 105 becomes the luxury; a nice settled old snow tool, period. Since as I recall you're a fairly big guy, thus you'll sink like a stone on it in fresh powder. Or bog down in gloppy chop. 

 

My take: Titan, one of the stronger 98's (Enforcer, Monster, MX), Kastle 115. The Enforcer has the edge cuz of its bang for the dollar. 

 

Or yeah, as you seem to suggest later in the thread, Titan,105HP, something really wide like an Ullr or Protest. (We'll pretend the REV isn't there, like the Cheshire Cat.)

 

But what you'll actually do: Titans, keep the REV's cuz you will no matter, and you'll keep skiing them all the time, buy an Enforcer cuz it's getting so many stellar reviews, and is cheap. Then get the 105's next season. Unless, of course, the upcoming MX line revisions make the MX98's impossible not to buy. Or... ;) 

post #42 of 54
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Yes... I saw that about the MX 98. Its like an E-100 that swallowed some PEDs and went to the gym... love those skis. At 200 lbs, I have a lot of options, and I've got a gen 1 Bodacious with some cool stickers on 'em for big days. This is really sort of a ridiculous 'problem'. smile.gif

@dave86, funny, I hardly remember that clinic other than being sort of cranky that day for some reason.
Edited by markojp - 10/19/15 at 10:33am
post #43 of 54

I think you ought to keep those charging Bodacious skis for now, and get either the Enforcer or the 105 HP, or eventually both (they seem like they might be complementary to me.)  :)

 

I read @dawgcatching's review about the BMX 105 (rather than the 105 HP, I believe).  It sounded great, and right in the middle of your current quiver.  Since you're heavier, the 105 HP may be for you what the regular 105 is for him - a fun, balanced soft snow ski, both charging and playful.   Hard to beat.  And probably much more 3D than the Enforcer.  

 

I'd guess that for you neither 105 will fully float in resort pow, but the HP might handle unusually well there. For me the question about both the 105 and 105 HP is will they have some fun/play 3D factor in pow and pm resort conditions as well as be chargers there.  If you've demoed them and already know the answer to this - and if indeed the 105 HP has both, man, it sounds good, a real complement to both the 80s skis and the Bodacious.  A "no compromise" solution.  

post #44 of 54

I used a pair of 106's (K2 Sidestash) as a 1 1/2 ski quiver (my old Apache Recons for early season/hard snow) but last 2 seasons went to 98 and 117 (Bonafides and Automatics) -- the bones are more fun on crud, bumps, trees, chutes than the Sidestashes and the Atomics float better and turn a lot easier in new snow. So I'd say keep the 98's and go bigger, softer, turnier for your powder ski. 

post #45 of 54
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I read @dawgcatching's review about the BMX 105 (rather than the 105 HP, I believe).  It sounded great, and right in the middle of your current quiver.  Since you're heavier, the 105 HP may be for you what the regular 105 is for him - a fun, balanced soft snow ski, both charging and playful.   Hard to beat.  And probably much more 3D than the Enforcer.  

FWIW, I posted in that thread about the exact ski, and Scott said he was pretty sure he skied the HP.  AS far as I can tell, the only humans who've skied the wood 105 work for SKIING. But I've seen reviews of the 105HP all over the map, from only-high-speed-crud-maniac-experts need apply to a-piece-o-cake at all speeds. Sort of like the Enforcer. :D Which leads me to suspect, like the MX line,  it's more about requiring ability than weight; a very tractable ski if you know what to do with it, and I'm certain it's easier to handle than the old 108, but not for intermediates. Or not...:dunno

post #46 of 54
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FWIW, I posted in that thread about the exact ski, and Scott said he was pretty sure he skied the HP.  AS far as I can tell, the only humans who've skied the wood 105 work for SKIING. But I've seen reviews of the 105HP all over the map, from only-high-speed-crud-maniac-experts need apply to a-piece-o-cake at all speeds. Sort of like the Enforcer. :D Which leads me to suspect, like the MX line,  it's more about requiring ability than weight; a very tractable ski if you know what to do with it, and I'm certain it's easier to handle than the old 108, but not for intermediates. Or not...:dunno

I skied the non-HP at SIA last season. 

post #47 of 54

And??? :popcorn

post #48 of 54

markojp:

What length are you considering for the BMX105-HP -> 181 or 189 ?

 

 

- Andy

post #49 of 54

And ... I'm human and don't work for SKIING. :D

 

I will go find my review ... I remember I liked it but it was at the end of the day and I needed to ski it more, and not in tight bumps like I was doing.  ok, here:

 

"I skied the Kästle BMX105 (181) back to back with a second turn on the Cochise, and although the new Cochise is quicker than the old one, the BMX was quicker still. In fact, I really need more time to get a good handle on it; it was so much more agile than I expected, I was overturning at first. And I didn’t have it in exactly the right conditions (those came on Wednesday), so my review for this one is a bit incomplete."

 

I vaguely remember someone else also taking a little longer to get a bead on this one, but definitely in a positive way. I think it was about the last ski of the day for me, and I was tired, and it kept turning before I was ready. :p Which is not usually a thing with a 105, IME. Would love to get on it again, except my pocketbook probably doesn't need that.

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Would love to get on it again, except my pocketbook probably doesn't need that.

Maybe not, but Kästle's pocketbook needs your money.biggrin.gif
post #51 of 54
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markojp:
What length are you considering for the BMX105-HP -> 181 or 189 ?


- Andy

189 for sure.

Anyhow, I think I've made a decision. I'll have an Enforcer that I originally planned to mount teley, but will mount it alpine. if there's a Kastle this season, it will be an MX 98. Why? Just because. Anyhow, thanks for all the highly entertaining attempts at enabling, etc... smile.gif You guys are a fun bunch! I like the Enforcer, and it will do what I need very well.
post #52 of 54
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@dave86, funny, I hardly remember that clinic other than being sort of cranky that day for some reason.

 

Hmmm... I came across you at the base of the gondola with your Rev 85s.  Yet somehow you ended up at the top with a pair of old straight skis.  There was plenty of snow up there for the R85s.  Cranky about your choice of skis?

post #53 of 54
Lusting for sensibility. Hmmmmm....
post #54 of 54
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Hmmm... I came across you at the base of the gondola with your Rev 85s.  Yet somehow you ended up at the top with a pair of old straight skis.  There was plenty of snow up there for the R85s.  Cranky about your choice of skis?

Actually they're pretty much state of the non-FIS art '14-'15 if they were the Blizzard cheater GS's, I just wanted to ski on 'em for fun! Sometimes you just have to ski gear that forces you to do things a bit differently. Was trying to figure them out. smile.gif
Edited by markojp - 10/19/15 at 11:37pm
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