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Looking for Ski Recommendation East Coast All Mtn + Occasional Uphill, Brahma, Vantage, Cassiar etc

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Hey All,

Looking for some help here. I need a ski that will be an everyday VT ski as well as on lean days in Europe/out west.(I have DPS Wailer 112s for softer days) My 9 year old Nordica hot rods are past it at this point!

 

Basically, I'm 6 ft & 172lbs and I love to make fast GS turns on the groomers, but equally as important I want a ski that can be quick and not too much work in VT trees, especially when the form starts slipping and I'm getting tired. Also, I'll probably throw some Baron or Guardian bindings on, as probably 1-2 times a week I like to go uphill and earn a top to bottom run. That's less important than the downhill attributes but if I was totally split between 2 skis and one was a a lot lighter it might sway it. 

 

In the past year or two, I've tried Dynastar powertrack 89, the K2 Amp Rictor 90 and Salomon X drive 88. I found the powertrack and x drive to be great at speed on the groomers but more work in the trees, and the K2 was quick in the trees but not as stable at speed. I know I'll have to compromise a little one way or another, but something that falls in between would be ideal.

 

The Brahma seems to be a great ski, but the Atomic Vantage 90 CTI and 85 CTI both look good as well. The 85CTI maybe looks more appealing than the 90CTI given that I already have fatter skis and don't care about float etc. And even though I already drank the DPS kool aid and the Cassiar 85 definitely looks interesting, it's a lot of money to spend on a ski that I won't be able to demo anywhere and not a lot of beta yet on it. The only review I can find on the 85 CTI is on Real Skiers:

http://www.realskiers.com/2016/2016-SKI-REVIEWS/brand-reviews/atomic.html

 

Any other skis to consider? Any thoughts on comparisons between the Brahma and Vantages?

 

My first trip this year is up to Stratton & Magic in early Jan for 7 days, and I've always had bad luck with the shops having the skis I want to try and in the right sizes. So I might just pull the trigger so I can just have the skis good to go from day one, so any feedback would be great. 

 

Thanks a lot.

post #2 of 7
I skied the Brahma and the Vantage 90CTi at a small demo day at Big Sky last season. The Brahma was good but I liked the Vantage better. In fact, the guy who owns the ski shop where I work was not planning to carry any oif the Vantage series skiis but after getting on them at Big Sky we were both impressed enough that we have the 90 and 100 CTi in stock. I think the Brahma had a bit more edge grip, but the 90CTi was better in bumps and the soft snow we could find. I don't know how the weight compares, but I'm guessing the 85CTi is lighter than the Brahma. If I was looking to replace my 90mm ski, I would be all over the Vantage 90CTi.

I skied the Cassiar a couple seasons ago and really didn't like it. The conditions were pretty firm and it just felt unstable.

If you want a lightweight setup for hiking, look at the Tyrolia Adrenalin and Ambiton bindings, especially the Ambition 12 carbon. The Baron is quite heavy and I'm guessing the Ambition Carbon is even lighter than the Guardian. I'll check the Head catalog when I get to the shop later and see if weights are listed.
Edited by mtcyclist - 10/15/15 at 7:12am
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Another ski to consider would be the Icelantic Pilgrim. It fits in the same range of the skis you've been looking at, and is very solidly built, works great for sidecountry/backcountry. I ski the Nomads as my AT setup, and it works great. 

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According to Head's catalog, the Ambition Carbon 12 weighs 1780 grams with brake but I don't know if that is one binding or the set.  According to one site, the small size Baron weighs about 2600 grams, but it doesn't state if that includes the brake or if that's one binding or the set.  Basically not very useful information from anyone.

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

According to Head's catalog, the Ambition Carbon 12 weighs 1780 grams with brake but I don't know if that is one binding or the set.  According to one site, the small size Baron weighs about 2600 grams, but it doesn't state if that includes the brake or if that's one binding or the set.  Basically not very useful information from anyone.

Both of those are almost certainly per pair. Salomon lists the Guardian at 1400 grams each 1/2 pair. The Guardian is in the same class as the Baron and the Tyrolia is supposed to be a lighter option.


Edited by Eric S - 10/16/15 at 10:33am
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks a lot for the replies.

The armada Invictus 89 TI looks like another ski that gets good reviews as well.

I think I'm leaning towards the Vantage 85CTI but I can't find any profile pics anywhere so I can get an idea of sizing. Stuck between the 173 and 181. My old Nordica Hot Rods were 169s and my DPS 112's are 184s.

 

The Tyrolia Adrenalins look like a good choice, but can't quite figure out the differences between that and the Ambition. Adrenalins look more solid? The Guardians seem to have a lower stack height but only 2 uphill positions which is a little annoying. No idea how much difference the stack height between the two will make....

Thanks again

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The Armada's are on my short list to see this Dec.
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