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Skiers edge question - upgrade kits?

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Has anyone upgraded a classic S4 to a QS5?    Is there a real gain in noise control?   In smoothness?    Is the QS5 significantly better than the T5?

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There's one at my gym and I've avoided it because it seems to involve sliding not carving. Any comments?
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Originally Posted by Lorenzzo View Post

There's one at my gym and I've avoided it because it seems to involve sliding not carving. Any comments?

 

Well the thread was really directed to any owner-observed differences between the type with  round white rails  and the type with the squared-off profile bright metallic rails.

As to your question, I don't consider it a teaching device , but rather a conditioning device.  By 'sliding' I take it you mean 'pushing', as in ' the machine conditions you to push the foot out to achieve edge angles'?  

I don't have *that* concern at all - mostly for the reasons stated here

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Show me a heel pusher, and I'll show you a pelvis that's following the ski's direction of travel. Chances are also high that to start the next turn, there's some shoulder movement involved. Not that it can't work, but it's just a bunch of baroque movements that take extra energy. Think of it as decorating your turns in a 'less is more' world.
 

 

 

 

the downsides are that
 

 - the machine locks out  steering movements  so you really can't  *quite* mimic crossunders.   The "pulling" motion described in the thread I took that quote from is impossible really. 
 

 - the foot cradles have a narrower stability zone than a hardwood bongo board on a ceramic floor so you have to be *very* careful in trying fancy edge stuff or you''ll get launched sideways. 

 

Still hoping to hear from shiny metallic square rail owners. 

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I've got em (they sponsor me) & I do think it's a smoother ride!
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

Well the thread was really directed to any owner-observed differences between the type with  round white rails  and the type with the squared-off profile bright metallic rails.


As to your question, I don't consider it a teaching device , but rather a conditioning device.  By 'sliding' I take it you mean 'pushing', as in ' the machine conditions you to push the foot out to achieve edge angles'?  


I don't have *that* concern at all - mostly for the reasons stated here



the downsides are that

 
 - the machine locks out  steering movements  so you really can't  *quite* mimic crossunders.   The "pulling" motion described in the thread I took that quote from is impossible really. 

 
 - the foot cradles have a narrower stability zone than a hardwood bongo board on a ceramic floor so you have to be *very* careful in trying fancy edge stuff or you''ll get launched sideways. 

Still hoping to hear from shiny metallic square rail owners. 

Well...don't want to drift the thread...but it's promoted as something that helps a skier carve while utilizing pushing movements associated with not carving. If you can "condition" without getting "conditioned" then enjoy.
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I've got em (they sponsor me) & I do think it's a smoother ride!

 

Significantly less noise?    That's the biggest concern.

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