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Is there a way to tell google maps to consider seasonal closures? (Breck -> Aspen->(Crested Butte?->)Alta->Jackson Hole)

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I'm plotting a road trip. Is there a way to tell Google maps (or any map system, I guess) what dates I'm traveling, to be sure it takes seasonal road closures into account?

post #2 of 22
Based on the number of people ending up snowed in on some dirt road and being missing for days, I'm guessing most of them don't. I've certainly visited some forest roads now and then, fortunately in the summer. My Garmin only lets me screen out toll roads, ferries, and highways. Same with Google Maps app. You really need paper maps sometimes that have those seasonal things colored differently.



The app sends me over the Sun Road, which is closed.


Edited by sibhusky - 10/11/15 at 11:10am
post #3 of 22
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Based on the number of people ending up snowed in on some dirt road and being missing for days, I'm guessing most of them don't. I've certainly visited some forest roads now and then, fortunately in the summer. My Garmin only lets me screen out toll roads, ferries, and highways. Same with Google Maps app. You really need paper maps sometimes that have those seasonal things colored differently.

 

Oh - I hadn't really been thinking about the app, though that's a good point. Or my Garmin. I was thinking about something I could view on a full web interface. But - I suppose it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy a paper map!

post #4 of 22
Most states have the DOT announcing road closures as well.
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I'm plotting a road trip. Is there a way to tell Google maps (or any map system, I guess) what dates I'm traveling, to be sure it takes seasonal road closures into account?

 

May be worthwhile to send them a feedback requesting for feature enhancement.  I've sent them feedbacks for routing through neighborhood streets not open to public (for example, through gated communities) and they've actually corrected the errors!  

 

This thread below is somewhat relevant:

 

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/h9-GsUeGsIo

post #6 of 22

Mapquest will do it.

post #7 of 22

I think @dbostedo mentioned in another thread that it's possible to use the Depart Date feature of Google Maps to account for seasonal closures.

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I think @dbostedo
 mentioned in another thread that it's possible to use the Depart Date feature of Google Maps to account for seasonal closures.

Yep. On the Google maps site, I put in the drive from Aspen to Crested Butte, and the suggested route changes based on the departure date to avoid some of the passes. I don't know how good all of the information is, but it seemed to work for that route. Is be curious to know if it knows all the seasonal closures.
post #9 of 22
Nope. Tried the website, definitely sending me over the closed Sun Road.
post #10 of 22
i did Leadville to Aspen on Mapquest and it gave me the option to avoid winter closures. I couldn't find departure date on Google maps? Where is it?
post #11 of 22
MapQuest actually works:

post #12 of 22
Downloaded the MapQuest app and there's a feature just like on the website to turn off showing roads that are closed. Just what I need, yet another mapping product on my tablet....
post #13 of 22
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I couldn't find departure date on Google maps? Where is it?

I don't see it on the app. On the website, it's under the address fields.
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I couldn't find departure date on Google maps? Where is it?

I don't see it on the app. On the website, it's under the address fields.

But on Google Maps, I'm saying leave today, the road is closed today and it's sending me the wrong way. There's some notes in the actual turns about there may be closed roads, but no indication that they are closed, and the alternate route presented is taking me over the same closed section. So, pretty useless, as it is not a minor detour. And by the time you know it, you've lost an hour backtracking to a route they don't give you.
post #15 of 22

Google Maps works if you give it the date you'll be driving.  The North Cascades Highway (SR 20) is closed in winter but open right now.  I put in a route from here to Winthrop, WA and it sent me over that route.  When I changed the date (underneath the destination you put in it says "leave now," click on it and you can change the date) to January 4 it took me over US 2 which is the winter alternate.

post #16 of 22
As I said already, if I say I am leaving today OR this date (today), it sends me over a closed road, but it has notes that it MIGHT be closed certain times of the year. It is closed NOW. It still picks that route. So, if you can't trust that it knows it is closed for one route, why would you trust it for any?
post #17 of 22
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As I said already, if I say I am leaving today OR this date (today), it sends me over a closed road, but it has notes that it MIGHT be closed certain times of the year. It is closed NOW. It still picks that route. So, if you can't trust that it knows it is closed for one route, why would you trust it for any?


You might be facing a situation where the data is incomplete. It will route around seasonal closures when it has good data, but it cannot when it doesn't. I would be with you not feeling good about trusting it to keep me safe. Just says again that the old ways might be the best.

post #18 of 22
That's my point. You don't know what information MIGHT be missing, but clearly they are missing some data, easily discovered, because the closure has been on the books for months. So, if they don't have that data, then why would you trust them to have the rockslide that happened yesterday? The only way to know that the routing is correct is to have looked the whole route up using other sources. Even then, it won't tell you everything. I've found that in metro areas, the traffic data is good, but mountain passes? I call home and have them look at the web cams.
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Yep. Remember what the Interwebs are, and more importantly, what they are NOT. Winter mountain travel, summer desert travel...rely only on Google and you're asking to be a news story.

post #20 of 22
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I don't see it on the app. On the website, it's under the address fields.

 

One other annoyance with this on Google maps, now that I look again, is that it doesn't work with multiple destinations. If you put Beck -> Aspen in there, the drop down for when you leave shows up. Once you add Aspen -> Crested Butte, that option doesn't show up. 

post #21 of 22
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I don't see it on the app. On the website, it's under the address fields.

 

One other annoyance with this on Google maps, now that I look again, is that it doesn't work with multiple destinations. If you put Beck -> Aspen in there, the drop down for when you leave shows up. Once you add Aspen -> Crested Butte, that option doesn't show up. 

 

Ahah! I was wondering. I had a whole full-circle route in there, and I didn't see any such option. But often that problem is "PEBKAC."

post #22 of 22
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Ahah! I was wondering. I had a whole full-circle route in there, and I didn't see any such option. But often that problem is "PEBKAC."

 

ID-10T errors are rampant when I try things too :D... but this time I think it's just a problem (well, lack of a feature anyway) with Google maps. 

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