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Would I be crazy to use my dad's Olin Kinetics (potentially from '99, late as '02) for instructing youth ski school?

post #1 of 11
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I am about to head out to Colorado to spend the season as a youth ski instructor, and do not own my own pair of skis. I skiied from about 4 years old until I was 11 before moving to the Midwest and switching over to snowboarding. Being that (at least initially) I would primarily use a snowboard when riding off the clock, would I be crazy to use the essentially ancient pair of Olin Kinetics - with the Edge Control System!! - for cruising on groomers with my pack of kids? It would save a few hundred dollars which is helpful when living on $10/hr. Thoughts? Opinions?

 

Would the old boots (which fit comfortably) work fine with a newer set of skis? 

 

Cheers

post #2 of 11

Will they not give you a pair of skis very cheaply if you are an instructor?  

 

First thing on your list is to find and make friends with the rental equipment folks.

 

Heck, i think there are a lot of folks that will sell you skis near free (myself included).  go look over in the marketplace.  


Edited by raytseng - 10/9/15 at 5:03pm
post #3 of 11

I'd be most worried about the bindings on a fifteen year old pair of skis because the plastic housing around the springs fails and the actually blow out the sides.  Most bindings that old are no longer indemnified meaning that shops won't work on them without failing the inspection.  Next potential problem is boots that old, also due to the fact that plastic loses its elasticity and fails around that age.. especially in cold weather.  The skis are very likely skiable but you'll be ridiculed endlessly by teens and tweens for skiing on skinny, old fashioned, 'get off my lawn" gear.  Your ski school director should be able to hook you up with a proform for a nice new gear order.  Also, the rental shop at the resort likely has demo gear they sell pretty cheap and you could try out different options before buying something.

 

Ultimately, I'm pretty sure the ski school veterans would tell you go get appropriate, safe to use gear before skiing with clients.  You could show up for the on the snow training with them and see how it goes over though.  They won't cut you the first week or so just because you don't have modern gear.. or I don't remember that being the case.  But, before you start actually working you will need compliant gear to teach.  15 year old boots and bindings won't suffice.

post #4 of 11

Yes, you would be crazy.

post #5 of 11

How on earth did you get a job as a ski instructor if you haven't touched a pair of skis for years?

post #6 of 11
My god, you should be able to get gear from the rental shop for free. When I was actively teaching at RLM, I could go in and get snowboard gear any time I wanted, no charge.
post #7 of 11
Chances are, aside from all the binding issues mentioned above, and hes, many schools will require that you have your bindings tested by the resort for liability reasons, if it's any sort of destination resort, the school isn't going to want you on 15 year old gear. The school should supply you with access to some sort of performance demo/rental, and other instructors will have gear they want to unload, particularly if any are area reps for a specific brand. So no, it's not likely your 15 year old gear will be acceptable.
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Originally Posted by ConradT View Post
 

I am about to head out to Colorado to spend the season as a youth ski instructor, and do not own my own pair of skis. I skiied from about 4 years old until I was 11 before moving to the Midwest and switching over to snowboarding. Being that (at least initially) I would primarily use a snowboard when riding off the clock, would I be crazy to use the essentially ancient pair of Olin Kinetics - with the Edge Control System!! - for cruising on groomers with my pack of kids? It would save a few hundred dollars which is helpful when living on $10/hr. Thoughts? Opinions?

 

Assuming you're not trolling and really want some meaningful feedback the following would be good to know...

 

How old are you?

 

How tall are you, and how much do you weigh?

 

What do you think you'll be doing as a "youth ski instructor"? Spending all your time on groomed bunny runs with never ever (skied) 6 year olds? Skiing all over the mountain with older kids who are beyond beginner lever? And how often will you be instructing? Multiple full days per week? A few hours on the weekends?

 

What length are the Olin's? What kind of bindings are on them, and are the bindings mounted for your boots, or your Dad's?

 
Originally Posted by ConradT View Post

 

Would the old boots (which fit comfortably) work fine with a newer set of skis? 

 

What make/model/year are the "old boots"?


Edited by jc-ski - 10/10/15 at 8:12pm
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by Bro12 View Post
 

How on earth did you get a job as a ski instructor if you haven't touched a pair of skis for years?

 

Do you really want to know the answer to that? LMAO...

 

To the OP, if you show up on the job your first day with a pair of skis older, then some of the people you are going to be teaching, you are going to look like a hack. Get some NEWER skis, Craig's List, want ads, hell anything, don't show up to give people lessons on those skis, or actually do and post the video. 

post #10 of 11
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OP here, thanks for the multitude of responses! I think Levy1 gave the most succint answer, "yes you would be crazy", but I appreciate the more nuanced responses (crgildart especially). I would look ridiculous to employer and parents of students to use the dated equipment, especially with the potential for equipment failure and following safety issues. I could handle tweens and teens but I have a responsibility to be more prepared. I've found deals online and through friends (for example K2's AMP Strykers). I'll still take the old skis to perhaps give them a test run with new bindings/boots for fun, but not for work.

 

I would also like to clarify, when I switched over to snowboarding it wasn't exclusively but rather I didn't get on skis every year and I focused heavily on snowboarding. I've spent time on a mountain almost every year of my life, and when I was primarily a skier I was riding expert terrain regularly. Combined with years of coaching and teaching experience off the mountain is how I got the job. As a youth instructor, I will be working with beginners and munchkins, as I am uncertified (will be taking courses during season) and therefore will begin at the lowest skill levels. On a recent trip to Breck with a bunch of college buddies I was the unofficial instructor, and I had both fun and surprising success in teaching a few beginners, so I wanted to do it officially. Also, being that the last time I strapped on ski's and a board was on trip in March to Gulmarg to cut freshies in massive bowls and ridges, I'm sure I can handle the greens and groomers in Colorado, haters.

 

Thanks again err'body, hope its a good season in the Rockies! 

post #11 of 11
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If or when I bust them out, I'll be sure to let you know how it went!

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