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Look Bindings - Interchangeable Brakes?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I recently purchased a pair of moguls skis (Dynastar Twisters) that have a waist width of 66mm.

 

While searching for Look bindings (primarily either SPX or PX models), I've had a difficult time finding online retailers that offer the bindings with 75mm (or even 80mm) brakes. There are thousands of models with 90mm and up, but it's extremely sparse below that.

 

Can anyone tell me if the brakes are interchangeable for these models? For example, if I want a Look SPX 12 binding with a 75mm brake, can a retailer simply swap out their listed 100mm brake for a 75mm brake?

 

 

*My apologies if this questions has been addressed previously. I didn't turn up any recent search results.

post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by Tactical Speed View Post
 

I recently purchased a pair of moguls skis (Dynastar Twisters) that have a waist width of 66mm.

 

While searching for Look bindings (primarily either SPX or PX models), I've had a difficult time finding online retailers that offer the bindings with 75mm (or even 80mm) brakes. There are thousands of models with 90mm and up, but it's extremely sparse below that.

 

Can anyone tell me if the brakes are interchangeable for these models? For example, if I want a Look SPX 12 binding with a 75mm brake, can a retailer simply swap out their listed 100mm brake for a 75mm brake?

 

 

*My apologies if this questions has been addressed previously. I didn't turn up any recent search results.

Yes, they can be swapped. Bigger shops might have stockpile of old brakes around to swap. If not, they can be ordered. Other option is to look for "race bindings", they will tend to have a narrow brake. 

post #3 of 13
Brakes are interchangeable, but I'm not sure the PX12 comes with that narrow a brake.
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post

Brakes are interchangeable, but I'm not sure the PX12 comes with that narrow a brake.

It does because they use it for the junior/tweener race skis. 

post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your insight, Philpug and FreeSki. I had noticed the thinner widths available for certain "race" bindings but wasn't sure if there was anything else different about those particular models. It sounds like I can get away with a race model without losing any features of either binding.

post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by Tactical Speed View Post
 

Thanks for your insight, Philpug and FreeSki. I had noticed the thinner widths available for certain "race" bindings but wasn't sure if there was anything else different about those particular models. It sounds like I can get away with a race model without losing any features of either binding.

It's a race binding, you are only gaining, not loosing. And if you want to put these on bump skis, you want stronger. 

post #7 of 13

I'm running into a similar problem too. I want to purchase a pair of Look Pivot 14's, but the brake they come with is a 90mm. The skis I wnt to put them on are Armada Pipe Cleaners (80mm at the waist.) The whole reason to go with the Looks is a problem with the current binding, (Marker Griffons) catching in the snow and breaking (as well as dumping the skier) on switch landings. Getting the narrowest brake available for the Looks is essential. What width brake is recommended for an 80mm waist ski? (82mm? 85?). The binding can be obtained with a 90mm ski brake. Is that too wide for a 80mm waist ski to stay out of the way on switch landings?). We already bend the ski brakes up and in on the Griffons to keep them out of the way on switch landings. This isn't a "real" solution, as it paints a target on the judges booth at halfpipe comps if the ski gets away in a crash. 

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by TeleBruce View Post
 

I'm running into a similar problem too. I want to purchase a pair of Look Pivot 14's, but the brake they come with is a 90mm. The skis I wnt to put them on are Armada Pipe Cleaners (80mm at the waist.) The whole reason to go with the Looks is a problem with the current binding, (Marker Griffons) catching in the snow and breaking (as well as dumping the skier) on switch landings. Getting the narrowest brake available for the Looks is essential. What width brake is recommended for an 80mm waist ski? (82mm? 85?). The binding can be obtained with a 90mm ski brake. Is that too wide for a 80mm waist ski to stay out of the way on switch landings?). We already bend the ski brakes up and in on the Griffons to keep them out of the way on switch landings. This isn't a "real" solution, as it paints a target on the judges booth at halfpipe comps if the ski gets away in a crash. 

The narrow Pivot brake is abbot a 70mm brake. I have been asking for a while to get a 80mm option, I hope they will do it. I do have 70mm pedestals, I would swap them with the 90mm if you want. 

post #9 of 13


I saw an AD on Amazon for Pivot 14's w/a 75mm brake. Still a little skeptical about a 75mm brake working properly on a 80mm ski. (Plus that particular binding is $175 more than all the other identical bindings for sale with wider brakes. I don't think so.)

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by TeleBruce View Post
 


I saw an AD on Amazon for Pivot 14's w/a 75mm brake. Still a little skeptical about a 75mm brake working properly on a 80mm ski. (Plus that particular binding is $175 more than all the other identical bindings for sale with wider brakes. I don't think so.)

 

75mm is very generous. 

post #11 of 13

I ended up going with a Look Pivot 14 with a ?? width ski brake for $250, rather than the same binding with a 75mm brake for $379! So you think a 75mm Look Pivot brake on an 80mm waist ski isn't too narrow? By generous, do you mean it fits without clearance issues?

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by TeleBruce View Post
 

I ended up going with a Look Pivot 14 with a ?? width ski brake for $250, rather than the same binding with a 75mm brake for $379! So you think a 75mm Look Pivot brake on an 80mm waist ski isn't too narrow? By generous, do you mean it fits without clearance issues?

You can also trim some of the plastic off the inside of the brake to help them clear if it's still a little close.  Fitting the 75mm around the 80mm waist is going to be better than having a 90mm brake around the same ski, in my opinion.

 

Also, if a judge is underscoring your son because of binding malfunction, you should consider mentioning it to AFP.  There's certainly nothing in the rules that says if your ski comes off and goes careening into the spectator area you're then docked points on future runs.

post #13 of 13


It's not really a big problem, but we're trying the Looks because of it and the recommendations of a few trusted hardcore skiers.

It's also just what it is when a ski comes off in competition, a fail. Future runs aside, you only get 2.

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