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Looking for the old metal ski brake retainers.

post #1 of 13
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Anyone know where I could pick up some of the old metal ski brake retainers (designed for skis with waist widths in the mid-60's)?   [See attached pics.]

 

 

 

 

 

I vastly prefer the old metal ski brake retainers to rubber bands --  the metal ones are easy to slip on and off, while the rubber bands require a bit of wrestling.   In addition, they ensure the brakes are always fully retracted.  Shops don't typically use them these days, because you'd need a different size for each brake width.  But back when skis were all about they same width, they were popular.  But it so happens I typically have 3-4 pairs of skis with 66 mm waists, and thus all fit the old metal brake retainers.  I've only got just the one retainer in the picture, and ideally I'd like to have three or four pairs of them.

 

Barring that, it's 2 mm thick, which falls comfortably within the standard sheet metal gauges, so I suppose I could also see how much it costs to have them made by a sheet metal fabricator.


Edited by chemist - 10/4/15 at 1:15pm
post #2 of 13
eBay
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eBay


Nope, searched there several times, never spotted them.  I suppose I could set up an automated eBay alert in the hope they might turn up at some unforeseen time in the future, but it makes more sense to ask here first.

post #4 of 13
There's one on there right now
post #5 of 13
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There's one on there right now


Ah -- I searched again, this time using "ski brake retainer" instead of "metal ski brake retainers", and it showed up.   Thanks.

 

He only has one pair, so I'll first see if anyone here has a larger quantity they want to sell.


Edited by chemist - 10/4/15 at 3:05pm
post #6 of 13

looks like you could make them in any brake width desired with some  pieces of 3/4  strap, a hack saw, a 1/4" piece of scrap to bend it across, a vise and a hammer.

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looks like you could make them in any brake width desired with some  pieces of 3/4  strap, a hack saw, a 1/4" piece of scrap to bend it across, a vise and a hammer.


It's a nice idea, but I took a look at the ski brakes on my wider skis and, unfortunately, they're designed with added bends that I think would prevent this simple design from working there.  Appropriate pieces could be designed, but shaping them would be much more complicated -- and it would also involve some trial-and-error.

post #8 of 13

I use some old pieces of wire to hold the brakes up.  It adjusts to any size and I don't have to go buy something.  I have a bunch of the stuff in various diameters in my shop and it works just as good as anything else I've used but it costs nearly nothing and is easily replaceable.

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I use some old pieces of wire to hold the brakes up.  It adjusts to any size and I don't have to go buy something.  I have a bunch of the stuff in various diameters in my shop and it works just as good as anything else I've used but it costs nearly nothing and is easily replaceable.

How does that work -- do you make a loops in the two ends of the wires and slip the brake ends through the loops?

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I use some old pieces of wire to hold the brakes up.  It adjusts to any size and I don't have to go buy something.  I have a bunch of the stuff in various diameters in my shop and it works just as good as anything else I've used but it costs nearly nothing and is easily replaceable.

How does that work -- do you make a loops in the two ends of the wires and slip the brake ends through the loops?


Yes, for the most part.  It works like that for heaver wire, but for the light stuff I have a loop on only one end and then wind the other end around the brake arm as I contract it manually.

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Yes, for the most part.  It works like that for heaver wire, but for the light stuff I have a loop on only one end and then wind the other end around the brake arm as I contract it manually.


I might try that for my wider skis -- the advantage of the wire seems to be that you're wrestling with one elastically-loaded object (the brakes) instead of two (the brakes and the rubber band).  But I suspect it's still easier to use the metal bands.  Any anything that lowers the activation energy for ski tuning (particularly having tools that are precisely designed for each function, and the metal band would be one of these) makes it more likely I'll do it rather than putting it off.

 

Of course, slicker still were the custom brake retainers that Atomic made to slip into the heel piece of the Xentrix 6.14 bindings -- I wonder if the binding was made with this in mind, or if this is something a clever designer added afterwords.  In either case, I wish more manufacturers did this!:

 

post #12 of 13

Atomic did that as standard for the Xentrix/race series bindings.  They also have a similar plastic one for beth X series bindings

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My local sheet metal fabricator wants $10 each to make these, a bit more than I'd like to pay.  So I just picked up the two on Ebay, and will see if I can find more.  If not, I'll just pay him to make what I need.

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