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Hello everyone,

 

I recently got back from living in Brazil for the last couple of years and have been out of the ski scene. Upon returning i saw my beloved 2012 Nordica enforcers, and with great nostalgia remembered all the great times we've had, but came to the conclusion that it is time for an upgrade. I have loved my Enforcers, great speed, grip, stability, and agility with adequate powder and chop abilities. The only thing i really found lacking in them was not having a twin tip. not because i want a park ski, but just so i could mess around a little, maybe do a 180 here or there, or land a jump in the woods.

 

So i guess what I am trying to say is that I am looking for a twin tipped Nordica Enforcer with a bit of rocker, (2012 only had "tip rise"). It is hard to find such a thing as most twin tipped skis dont have metal, or vice versa. and i have heard the new enforcers are flat tailed

 

I've posted a similar post earlier, but upon more research i found the Armada ARVTi that looks pretty close to what im looking for, at least on paper. It is twin tipped, has metal laminate, and a bit of rocker in the nose, as well as a 98 waist in my size. Ive have never heard of these skis and was hoping you guys have maybe a bit of experience skiing on them that you could share.

 

I also found the Line Super Naturals that seem to be a good pick as well, there are probably other candidates as well, recommendations are appreciated!

 

Thank you!

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Hello everyone,

 

I recently got back from living in Brazil for the last couple of years and have been out of the ski scene. Upon returning i saw my beloved 2012 Nordica enforcers, and with great nostalgia remembered all the great times we've had, but came to the conclusion that it is time for an upgrade. I have loved my Enforcers, great speed, grip, stability, and agility with adequate powder and chop abilities. The only thing i really found lacking in them was not having a twin tip. not because i want a park ski, but just so i could mess around a little, maybe do a 180 here or there, or land a jump in the woods.

 

So i guess what I am trying to say is that I am looking for a twin tipped Nordica Enforcer with a bit of rocker, (2012 only had "tip rise"). It is hard to find such a thing as most twin tipped skis dont have metal, or vice versa. and i have heard the new enforcers are flat tailed

 

I've posted a similar post earlier, but upon more research i found the Armada ARVTi that looks pretty close to what im looking for, at least on paper. It is twin tipped, has metal laminate, and a bit of rocker in the nose, as well as a 98 waist in my size. Ive have never heard of these skis and was hoping you guys have maybe a bit of experience skiing on them that you could share.

 

I also found the Line Super Naturals that seem to be a good pick as well, there are probably other candidates as well, recommendations are appreciated!

 

Thank you!

 

 

Here are Blister's pictures of the Enforcer's profile: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2015-2016-nordica-enforcer-2/3.

 

The review's a good read, too. I wouldn't dismiss this year's Enforcer until you've skied it.

post #3 of 7
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I will have to demos sometime, look like great skis, its just that in the profile shot they dont like they have enough rise in the tails
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I will have to demos sometime, look like great skis, its just that in the profile shot they dont like they have enough rise in the tails

How much rise in the tail are you looking for and why? The Nordica has more rise in the tail than the other two skis you mentioned.  I have probably 30 plus days on the new Enforcer and I will say that I am not missing one but of rise in the tail, I think Nordica nailed the shape and profile. We have a lengthy discussion going on here: Preview/Review: 2016 Nordica Enforcer.

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How much rise in the tail are you looking for and why?
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The only thing i really found lacking in them was not having a twin tip. not because i want a park ski, but just so i could mess around a little, maybe do a 180 here or there, or land a jump in the woods.
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The Nordica has more rise in the tail than the other two skis you mentioned.
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Enforcer



Super Natural



ARVTi




The Enforcers have less tail rise then then either the ARVTi or Super Naturals,
post #6 of 7
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So i guess my queation is if anyone has some experience skiing the armada arvti, and if it skis similarly to the enforcers
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

How much rise in the tail are you looking for and why?
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The only thing i really found lacking in them was not having a twin tip. not because i want a park ski, but just so i could mess around a little, maybe do a 180 here or there, or land a jump in the woods.
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

The Nordica has more rise in the tail than the other two skis you mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Vasudeva View Post


Enforcer



Super Natural



ARVTi




The Enforcers have less tail rise then then either the ARVTi or Super Naturals,

As a twin tip, yes. Important if you will be skiing switch. If so, than the Armada is a great option. If skiing switch is not a propriety, the Enforcer has a more usable tail. 

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