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The right ski for me: Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro 2016? or Head Titan?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi all, 

 

Seeking some input on the Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro (not the EDT version).

 

About me:

Male, 6', 175lbs

Aspiring to pass the level 3 on firm/boilerplate eastern conditions on piste and in bumps (likely in Quebec). Last year I got the "wait until next year" from the course conductors - so maybe this is the year. 

Can ski aggressively/confidently on soft-to-firm snow; tend to fall apart and ski at moderate speed on ice. 

 

Because of the ice conditions in the east, softer skis are out (e.g. the Integrale 009 and the Peak 82 noodle out on ice). I like the edge grip, stiffness and responsiveness of the Dynastar WC SL, but have trouble with it in bumps where the stiffness makes bumps feel jarring. 

 

How does the Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro compare to the Head Titan? (That's a ski I really enjoy.) 

 

I'm targeting the Spitfire Pro because I can get a really good price on it. The EDT model isn't available at the same amazing price. Or should I just bite the bullet and spend the extra $150 for the Titans?

post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post
 

Hi all, 

 

Seeking some input on the Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro (not the EDT version).

 

About me:

Male, 6', 175lbs

Aspiring to pass the level 3 on firm/boilerplate eastern conditions on piste and in bumps (likely in Quebec). Last year I got the "wait until next year" from the course conductors - so maybe this is the year. 

Can ski aggressively/confidently on soft-to-firm snow; tend to fall apart and ski at moderate speed on ice. 

 

Because of the ice conditions in the east, softer skis are out (e.g. the Integrale 009 and the Peak 82 noodle out on ice). I like the edge grip, stiffness and responsiveness of the Dynastar WC SL, but have trouble with it in bumps where the stiffness makes bumps feel jarring. 

 

How does the Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro compare to the Head Titan? (That's a ski I really enjoy.) 

 

I'm targeting the Spitfire Pro because I can get a really good price on it. The EDT model isn't available at the same amazing price. Or should I just bite the bullet and spend the extra $150 for the Titans?

1. You like the Titan. 

2. Is your Level 3 worth a $150.00 insurance policy to be on the ski you know you already like and prefer?

3. Between these two the Head is better in the bumps anyway. 

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks Phil, you're right; I just needed the push :)

post #4 of 13
If it makes you feel better, I passed my L3 on a Titan in conditions it wasn't ideally suited for off piste. On piste and for tasks, it rocked. If you've skied it and know it works for you, you're done shopping. . smile.gif
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Actually, I'm backtracking now based on the Titans' width underfoot... phil, you liked the 2015/2016 i.supershape speed? Good on hardpack/ice? Marko, your thoughts?

 

Is 170cm reasonable? 177 sounds so long. I'm used to skiing SLs in 165, GS in 172. (Too bad they don't make a 175!)

post #6 of 13

Marko likes the Titan more than I do. I prefer the narrower ones. While the iSpeed will be better than your SL in the bumps, the Magnum and Rally are really nice compromises. 

post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Marko likes the Titan more than I do. I prefer the narrower ones. While the iSpeed will be better than your SL in the bumps, the Magnum and Rally are really nice compromises. 

I've ran this question through my brain pan a few times. If I were doing L3 in the east, I'd go narrower. Speaking only for myself, I'd do either the Supershape iSpeed or the cheater GS iSpeed. Even the 180 in the cheater is 18m, and IMHO, 15-17m is pretty ideal for an L3 exam. I spent most of that season skiing/coaching/teaching on the Titans in pretty much all conditions. Why the Titan? It was all about venue. We did a lot of steep off piste in mixed condtions. I wanted something with marginally more float than a narrower carver while giving up little on (western) piste performance.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Marko likes the Titan more than I do. I prefer the narrower ones. While the iSpeed will be better than your SL in the bumps, the Magnum and Rally are really nice compromises. 

I've ran this question through my brain pan a few times. If I were doing L3 in the east, I'd go narrower. Speaking only for myself, I'd do either the Supershape iSpeed or the cheater GS iSpeed. Even the 180 in the cheater is 18m, and IMHO, 15-17m is pretty ideal for an L3 exam. I spent most of that season skiing/coaching/teaching on the Titans in pretty much all conditions. Why the Titan? It was all about venue. We did a lot of steep off piste in mixed condtions. I wanted something with marginally more float than a narrower carver while giving up little on (western) piste performance.

He is looking to pass on piste and bumps. While the GS iSpeed might be a good option for the on piste part, I think almost anything from the Supershaoe series will be substantial enough for the on piste part of the exam but significantly better in the bumps. A 14-15M TR will be better is he has to do any slow speed drills too. 

post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 

Phil, how do you feel about the supershape speed? (rather than the WC i.speed pro)

 

I remember skiing a supershape about 3 years ago (not a magnum, not a titan) and really loved its feel. 

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post
 

Phil, how do you feel about the supershape speed? (rather than the WC i.speed pro)

 

I remember skiing a supershape about 3 years ago (not a magnum, not a titan) and really loved its feel. 

I like it. The Speed has a construction closed to the race skis, the other three Supershapes are indeed the same construction. 

post #11 of 13
... and the same turn radius as a Titan! smile.gif
post #12 of 13

Curious, which size Titan would you recommend for him?  I am same height and weight, also L3 candidate, except ski in Central Rockies (very little ice). Other ski I was considering, the Nordica FA 80ti 2016 in 174cm... is that also an appropriate ski in your opinion?

post #13 of 13
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Curious, which size Titan would you recommend for him?  I am same height and weight, also L3 candidate, except ski in Central Rockies (very little ice). Other ski I was considering, the Nordica FA 80ti 2016 in 174cm... is that also an appropriate ski in your opinion?

6' 175? Tough one. I'd say the 170. I'm 5-11, ( 6' on low gravity days smile.gif ) butt nek'id and ski the 177 with the binding +1-1.5 forward in Raptor 130 with the top and bottom pins in FWIW. The FA 80ti in a 174 seems about right for your size and weight. It's not as strong a ski as the Titan.
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