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Elk Mountain PA ugliness

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Folks who go to Elk are probably familiar with the never-ending pissing contest between the owner of the mountain and the Village of the Four Seasons, the residential community just beyond the boundary. Part of it is an argument over whether the mountain is entitled to water from the village's recreational pond, which is separated from the mountain's snowmaking pond only by a berm. The village is occupied entirely by people who ski at Elk or who rent seasonally to skiers - really no other reason to be there. As a result of his differences with the village, several seasons ago the mountain owner closed off the only walking access from the village to the base lodge, forcing the villagers to drive about a mile to the parking lots to ski. Just an inconvenience in the larger scheme, I agree, but it struck me as spiteful and petty. Just ran into a friend who has a place in the village, and he tells me that, as a result of the ongoing litigation between the mountain and village, that for the upcoming season the area owner has denied villagers access to premium parking, season ski locker rental, and SEASON PASSES! My friend, who for many years has bought passes for his whole extended family and put in many days a year, will now ski there only on senior Tuesdays and I imagine that that will be the case for everybody else in the village - the area's core support. I don't really have a dog in the fight, haven't been to Elk in a couple of years although I plan to return, don't stay in the village when I do go, but this strikes me as a hell of away to run a ski area.
post #2 of 9

That is a shame. This has been gong on for many years. Small minds for sure. 

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Originally Posted by evansilver View Post

 for the upcoming season the area owner has denied villagers access to premium parking, season ski locker rental, and SEASON PASSES!

Are you sure this isn't just a rumor?  How do you deny people access to these things?  Assuming most of these are second homes, just ship the passes to the home address and use them all year.

post #4 of 9
Yeah, I was wondering how they police that.

I've been hearing about this for years and can't believe the pettiness.
post #5 of 9

Years ago in the old Tod Mountain days a friend was denied as season pass as he was a loud critic of the place. A letter from his lawyer soon ended that and a pass was purchased.

post #6 of 9

Good business strategy...you know, not selling your service to the people who would probably use it the most...if this is true, the owner clearly prioritizes his personal problems over running a successful business.

post #7 of 9
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It's not a rumor. Heard it from a friend who has been an owner in the village for 20 or 30 years, and is directly affected. Easy enough for owner to police - he knows the names of all the residents. Can he do it? I'm sure it has become part of the ongoing litigation.
post #8 of 9

Pretty sure that's a prime example of hearsay, a.k.a. rumor.  Not saying it isn't true, but the source is probably biased, it isn't based on facts (yet), we'll have to wait and see how it pans out.  Seems like a pretty boneheaded business move from here.

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Originally Posted by evansilver View Post

It's not a rumor. Heard it from a friend who has been an owner in the village for 20 or 30 years, and is directly affected. Easy enough for owner to police - he knows the names of all the residents. Can he do it? I'm sure it has become part of the ongoing litigation​

Property records are pretty much open to the public.  Easy to find who owns what if you have lawyer and a few $$$...  I have no dog in this fight. 

 

I've skied and enjoyed Elk a number of times over the years. 

 

Their main problem with SM-Water is that they are at the top of a hill and no big water supply in the area.

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