or Connect
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

New Skis For Me

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

I need some new boards and I intend to demo a few before buying.  I know very little about gear so am looking for some informed help here.

 

Me: 58 years old.  5'11" tall.  Currently weighing in at 202 lbs, trying hard to lose my clydesdale status for the first time in almost 30 years!  Level 8 or 9 skier.  Getting in around 30 days a year.

 

I tend to avoid groomers and seek out trees and sidecountry.  Will ski moguls but not all day as I have some osteoarthritis in the 58-year old knees.

 

Currently skiing on some shorter,177cm, 93mm waist, G3 Saints mounted with AT bindings.  These are a light, responsive ski that I bought for eastern back country, but I  have been using them at resorts and want to stop doing that.

 

I also have a pair of older Solomon 1080 Guns that are 183 CM and 105mm waist and these are mostly retired but occasionally come out to surf in the pow.

 

So nothing too wide... I prefer light and quick to solid and stable. Performance in powder and variable snow over carving and edge-hold on ice. I demoed some Soul 7's at Whitefish season before last for a day of powder and a day of chopped up pow and crud and did really like them. (188cm)  However, I did not like that big rockered tip flopping all over the place when not in pow or crud.

 

Looking for suggestions please and thank you.

post #2 of 25

I think the 1080 was in the 90's, but either way, if you like the light Sollie feel, and are looking for a tree ski, I'd stick with Sollies or maybe Fischers. IMO the Fischer Motive 95 Ti's, Sollie Q98's would be the best do all's. Or if you're serious about getting off piste as soon as possible, Fischer 106 Ti Rangers and Sollie Q105's. 

post #3 of 25
Hey crank. We've skied together, so I thought I'd chime in. Lots of people can recommend an eastern tree ski, so I won't try that. (Although I did note that Josh was on TSTs the day were were at Stowe with him. My tree ski, for what little that's worth.)

Nope, my trial balloon for you is this: I wonder if, at your size and speed, you have been so radically overskiing that little G3 that you're missing out on what a ski of some substance can offer. You might find yourself enjoying the groomer sections more if you had something to lean on. Don't dismiss the piste; it's a lot of your ski life around here. I'm sure @beyond's rec on the Fischer is sound. What about a Mantra like @Snowbowler's? If you must stay light, there was DPS that our Bears at SIA really liked. Can't remember the model. Look up @segbrown's review on that. But I would at least TRY something in a proper length with a very modern design but more old school construction. Maybe a Vagabond or - yikes - Enforcer. You are too strong and fast to be on a toy ski.

Edit: New BMX 105, if you have the budget???
post #4 of 25

Fischer Ranger could be perfect, both the 'old' ones (2015) as the new ones (a bit more modern in construction - might scare you off ;)) both 96 or 106 (old version) or 98 or 108 (2016 model) might do the trick. The old ones are going for almost nothing at the moment - here in Europe anyways.

 

Can I also recommend the Nordica Nrgy 100. Great stable, versatile, lightweight ski, performs both in powder and of harder snow.

post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 

Read a review of the TST's and they sound like something I would like.  I have skied beefier skis in the past and don't really feel like I am missing anything, though I may demo some Mantras just to see.

 

The Nordicas and Fischers also sound interesting and maybe the Q98's.  I actually bought a pair of Q98's (or was it 95's) for my son from Phil P. based on his Steals and Deals recommendation.

 

My old Guns are 105 and I find that I don't need anything even that wide.  I have skied wide boards around 120mm and they feel awkward to me.

 

Qcanoe, I think of myself as  a slower skier...maybe because I ski the slow line not particularly fast when on piste while tending to go a bit fastish off piste or on steep, narrow moguls like we encountered at MRG?

 

The G3's hold up surprisingly well but I bought them small for climbing and maneuvering in tight spots and want to preserve them for touring.  The slop/play in my older Fritschi Freerides probably doesn't help performance wise either.

post #6 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by crank View Post
 

Qcanoe, I think of myself as  a slower skier...maybe because I ski the slow line not particularly fast when on piste while tending to go a bit fastish off piste or on steep, narrow moguls like we encountered at MRG?

 

Um, I'm remembering you being the fastest of us older "civilian" skiers down - behind epic, Josh, and Jake - on the Bruce Trail at the end of the day. I pulled over to let the 18-wheeler pass. :)  As far as on-piste, I'd be going slow there too if I were on that kind of skis @ only 160cm or so (which would be about the equivalent length for someone my size to the 177cm G3s you were on). That's kind of my whole point.

 

PS: I like Cheizz's suggestion of the NRGY 100, too.

post #7 of 25

Fischer Motive 95's? Inexpensive. Popular with the zombies. @Finndog, cgeib, segbrown, fairtomiddlin, tetonpowderjunkie to name a few. Have not tried.

The Ranger is the lighter version.

You do need some beef though. I skied with you.

post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post
 

 

Um, I'm remembering you being the fastest of us older "civilian" skiers down - behind epic, Josh, and Jake - on the Bruce Trail at the end of the day. I pulled over to let the 18-wheeler pass. :)  As far as on-piste, I'd be going slow there too if I were on that kind of skis @ only 160cm or so (which would be about the equivalent length for someone my size to the 177cm G3s you were on). That's kind of my whole point.

 

PS: I like Cheizz's suggestion of the NRGY 100, too.

I think I was making you nervous bearing down right behind you on the Bruce!

post #9 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tog View Post
 

Fischer Motive 95's? Inexpensive. Popular with the zombies. @Finndog, cgeib, segbrown, fairtomiddlin, tetonpowderjunkie to name a few. Have not tried.

The Ranger is the lighter version.

You do need some beef though. I skied with you.

 

 

Hey I resemble that remark..........

 

 

Paging @segbrown for her "official" Zombie ID photo.......

post #10 of 25

So more to the AT side of things? Ie light. It's a little unclear.

post #11 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finndog View Post


Hey I resemble that remark..........


Paging @segbrown
 for her "official" Zombie ID photo.......

post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tog View Post
 

So more to the AT side of things? Ie light. It's a little unclear.

I am keeping my G3's for AT.  Looking for something for resorts but not for groomers.  Prefer responsiveness to stability.  Playfulness to dampness.  Light over heavy.  Having said that, Tog, you have skied with me and though I have dropped 15 lbs since then I am by no means a lightweight.  I am more of a seek out the soft snow guy than I am a hard charging carver but I guess I am  a fairly aggressive skier.

post #13 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by crank View Post
 
Looking for something for resorts but not for groomers. 

 

So, are you saying that you already have a dedicated groomer ski or that you just don't go out unless there is softer off-piste snow to be had?

 

As a life-long northeast skier I am having trouble processing how you could live in Connecticut and not feel like maximizing fun on groomers was part of the mission of a one-ski quiver. I could make better sense of it if I knew this was the fat end of a two-ski quiver or that you truly stay home on days when groomer skiing is all the skiing there is. (That's quite a lot of days, IME.)

post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 

I truly stay home when groomer skiing is all that is available.  Having said that I will admit that I am lying: I will do an early season day or so.  I sometimes go to places like Okemo or Mt Snow with my ski club friends, but I usually snowboard then.  I have no groomer or carving ski.  I am looking for a 1 ski quiver that is not superfat and I don't care much about hard snow performance.  Oh I know I will be skiing some hard snow here and there but I am OK not being on a hard snow ski.  

post #15 of 25

At 202 pounds I would go for the Motive 95 if you want something in that range... I own one pair and also tried the Ranger 96 than I didn't liked at all at my weight ( 215 pounds)... Although the  Ranger 106 is also a really nice ski... Felt totally different than the 96...

 

The Motive 95 are, for me, a light enough ski that has the dampness of metal ( like the Bonafide) but also the snappyness of all wood skis ( like the Steadfast); so they are really nice in bumps, trees, icy spots or groomers... I really like what Fischer have done with that serie...

post #16 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

I think the 1080 was in the 90's, but either way, if you like the light Sollie feel, and are looking for a tree ski, I'd stick with Sollies or maybe Fischers. IMO the Fischer Motive 95 Ti's, Sollie Q98's would be the best do all's. Or if you're serious about getting off piste as soon as possible, Fischer 106 Ti Rangers and Sollie Q105's. 

Last year for the Guns was actually 2009. It had technically dropped the "1080" label by then, but had all the design heritage from the 1080 line. Just retired my own Guns last season. 

post #17 of 25

FWIW, I just picked up the Rocky Mountain Underground P802, which was designed as an eastern OSQ. I'd definitely put it on the demo list. 

post #18 of 25

I won't name a specific ski as most manufacturers offer solutions.  I will instead, suggest some points to consider.  Given your weight, find a ski with sidewall and at least two layers of metal in it's construction.  If this is going to be your floaty powder ski, obviously go wide and have some rocker.  Everything has compromises so as others have suggested, have a few skis in your quiver so you can select the right tool for the conditions.  

 

Since your knee is sensitive, I think a ski in the Kastle line might serve your needs well. They are known for their comfort, dampness, stability and overall smooth characteristics.  A lot of this is due to the quality materials (including specific damping materials).  I suggest that on a day that represents the type of conditions you will commonly encounter, demo several skis until you find "the one."  It also goes without saying, don't neglect the right boots (very snug fit=less movement in your knees), foot beds and bindings.  Not sure if a plate or riser binding would help or hurt your knee.  A riser might put a little more torque on your knee.  All these things by themselves are minor but together, they add up.  :cool

post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 

All set with boots thanks.  Damp sounds to me like smooth and stable.  Neither are things I am looking for.  

post #20 of 25

I'm going to chime in here concerning damp and Kastle's.  I was looking for a beefy, damp ski b/c of my balky knee and ended up with a Kastle.  What has surprised me is how light and responsive they are in addition to damp.  I used to think of damp as only heavy and muscular; today, I think you can find skis that are both light and damp.  

 

I also wonder if you are looking in slightly the wrong place b/c of an association of "stable" and "damp" with "heavy", "unresponsive", or "hard to turn".  From my personal experience, I can say those are NOT all synonymous.  I also would suggest you consider a ski that is more muscular than you think you want.

post #21 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by crank View Post
 

All set with boots thanks. 

Still in those Lange Tii's? 

post #22 of 25

Another vote for the Solly Q98, or even a Q90.

 

I too have drunk the 1080/Pocket Rocket kool-ade, and more recently the Rocker2 92. From what I've read, the Q90 is more or less a re-branded Rocker2 92, with a slightly modified tail. I've been really impressed with the burliness of the 92, especially compared to the noodliness of the Pocket Rocket, while still maintaining a lot the playfulness.

 

I find it interesting that Salomon has gone to sandwich. or semi-sandwich construction, after pioneering, and extoling the virtues of cap construction for so long, but I think the construction, and full wood-core keep the ski from breaking down as quickly as the PR did, and give it a much more substantial feel. I've also been really impressed with the edge hold, and lack of flap and chatter on high speed groomers, which by design and category should not be the ski's strong-suit.

 

Anyway, if you're demoing, I'd give the 98, and the 90 a spin, and maybe a Rocker2 100 while you're at it.

post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

Still in those Lange Tii's? 

Nay Phil,

 

I retired my much loved Tii's a couple seasons back.  Am now in  a pair Technica Cochise.

post #24 of 25
I'd add that a binding with a good amount of shock absorption capability will help the knee.
post #25 of 25

Figured I'd also chime in since we skied together and seem to like a lot of the same terrain. My go to ski for the last couple of years has been the soul rider - which I got because I wanted a little more ski than an s3 but a similar shape. Plus I asked Josh what he actually skied most often and he said the soul rider (this was a few years ago). If I was looking for a new ski, on the playful side, I'd also think about Soul 7s (had a bunch of fun on them at Whistler), or one of the new volkl full rocker skis in the 95-108 range. I say this because based on my Shiros (119 so wider than you want) Volkl has come up with a shape/construction that allows for a unique (in my experience) combination of beefy and playful.

 

The full rocker gives playfulness,  and the rocker is long (almost to the boot) so the skis can pivot on a dime, but there's very little splay and the skis have a bit of stiffness, so you can lay them over on a groomer and carve as long as you are going fast enough to get the angle high enough that the edge engages. I'd try the new Mantra, the 100eight and the 90eight—or some of the similar skis in the BMT series.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion