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post #1 of 14
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I'm considering a group trip to Garmisch.  If one does not have a car, are there non-ski activities nearby?  While on that thought, I guess there are two nearby ski complexes,which is better?  Thanks

 

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post #2 of 14

How long are you going to be there?  You don't need a car - the skiing is OK there.  Much better if you can get over the border to Lermoos and Erhwald.  You can take the train there but a bit painful.  Probably can take a bus there though.  

post #3 of 14

Be aware that the 'classic' resort is quite low and is not snow sure early and late season. You may find yourself confined to the nearby glacier.

 

It is one of the classic hills used for the 4 hills tournament around xmas/new year time. Accommodation will be difficult then. 

 

OK for intermediates who are happy yoyo skiing for 2 to 3 hours a day. There are much better resorts close by if you want to spend your days skiing. 

 

Kitzbuhel is close by and will have much better skiing and good apres ski. 

post #4 of 14
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I'm considering a group trip to Garmisch.  If one does not have a car, are there non-ski activities nearby?  While on that thought, I guess there are two nearby ski complexes,which is better?  Thanks

 

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When are you headed there? Without a car it isn't ideal but doable with buses/train. Non ski activities could include sledging, paragliding, sightseeing (Germany's highest peak the Zugsptize), ice skating, swimming...

It's not a massif place but pretty and nearby to Austria with additional skiing.

 

Enjoy

Francis

post #5 of 14

Plenty of Ski terrain in Garmish.  Skied there numerous times in the 80's.

 

http://www.skigermany.com/skiing/garmisch/garmisch-partenkirchen.php

 

Check out the Eckbauer area near the Jumping Hill.

 

 

Near Innsbruck and Munich Trains to both.

 

Innsbruck - Old City, Sightseeing.

 

Munich - Old City, Beer halls, sightseeing.

 

If you have transportation (car) St Anton, Austria might be good for a day trip.

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Plenty of Ski terrain in Garmish.

Well that depends on what you mean with "plenty of ski terrain" ;) Personally, I don't have any idea why anyone would want to go to ski in Garmisch. It's mediocre ski place at best, with very very very little of decent ski terrain, at least for me. I would still understand this, if this would be somewhere in north Germany with 1000km to first real ski place, but considering it's just few km away from good ski places in Austria, I really don't see reason to go for ski holidays in Garmisch. Only plus of Garmish compared to Austria resorts few km south is plenty of great German beer compared to much worse Austrian beer :D

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Well that depends on what you mean with "plenty of ski terrain" ;) Personally, I don't have any idea why anyone would want to go to ski in Garmisch. It's mediocre ski place at best, with very very very little of decent ski terrain, at least for me. I would still understand this, if this would be somewhere in north Germany with 1000km to first real ski place, but considering it's just few km away from good ski places in Austria, I really don't see reason to go for ski holidays in Garmisch. Only plus of Garmish compared to Austria resorts few km south is plenty of great German beer compared to much worse Austrian beer :D

All pretty true with Austria just a short drive away... there is however one offpiste run very much worth the mention - the Neue Welt with it's 1800m vertical drop from near the summit of the Zugspitze. The Neue Welt is absolutely on the "must do" off piste runs of the Alps.

 

Francis

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post #8 of 14
I lived in Stuttgart from 2009-2012 and made many trips to garmisch since I had a sweet hook-up at an apartment there. However, I only skied the classic/zugspitze our first trip there as it just wasn't that great. But from there it was 30 minutes to lermoos area (several small but fun areas), and an hour plus to several other Austrian areas - some huge. I did lots of day trips from GAP. But - you really need a car. From gap you can train to Munich for the beer halls etc. as well (1.5 hr train).
post #9 of 14

Hey,

 

as a German let me say that Garmisch truly is the best known ski town we have to offer. It combines 40 km of slopes on 3 mountains, a nice little town and is known for the spectacular 7 km World Cup downhill run called 'Kandahar' - and that's pretty steep and challenging :-). On which side of the Zugspitze you should live, you can also ski the nearby resorts on the Austrian side of this impressive mountain, there's combined ski tickets which include Ehrwald, Lermoos and few more. It's not that bad. 

 

Remember that Garmisch - esp. for the mid altitude part of the resort - is not really safe in terms of snow before January. Snow can be great, but we have had poor seasons before. If you should consider the last weekend of January you'll see the town full/overcrowded because of the annual World Cup race. It's nice to see that once, but it kills the skiing.

 

But if you are taking this trip to get awesome skiing in the first place, and its a one shot for skiing the Alps, then the previous posts are right: turn to Austria.

 

Let me recommend Innsbruck, which you can fly in to. Really nice town, good for shopping and sightseeing and good food. Excellent skiing opportunities around, even for freeriders. Besides, with Sölden and the Arlberg Resorts (St. Anton, Lech) being only a 1- 1,5 h drive away, these resorts too are huge in terms of skiing options and apres ski. If you want to ski in the first place, my recommendation would be St. Anton.

 

I would definitely rent a car.

post #10 of 14

As someone who lives and skis nearby-- let me be one more voice saying skip Garmisch if you're there primarily to ski and you're an advanced skier. The town is nice (the quainter Partnach side), and there are some distractions (stay in the igloo on Zugspitze-- not comfortable, but an experience), and plenty of things to do around town. 

 

Kandahar is a fine run, with nice views at the top, and a first section that's fun to charge-- but it's groomed to perfection (I count that as a minus), and the steep section isn't terribly steep and isn't long. The rest of the Classic part are kinda busy and kinda boring if you've progressed past intermediate. There isn't much option for safe/legal off-piste, and the snow isn't all that great. There's a small area at the back, Alpspitze, under the tram, that's... meh. 

 

Zugspitze is worth seeing once, because it's beautiful. But the pistes, again, are limited-- perhaps even more than Classic. Off-piste mostly consists of a short humps between pistes, or areas along the sides. There are a couple no-fall zones that you're not likely to attempt, coming down from the tip-top to the actual piste. And there are some epic runs all the way down to Garmisch that you shouldn't even consider unless you're there with someone who knows... and/or has equipment for an abseil/rappel (such as Neue Welt)... and/or you're prepare to hike (not necessarily on snow). 

 

Austria/Tirol is absolutely crammed with excellent, less busy, better skiing spots with a far broader range of pistes, and far, far, far more interesting off-piste, and better snow security. Just keep in mind that in all these places-- you step 1/2 foot off the piste and you're entering what is technically back-country. Technically no patrol, no avy control-- and unless you have separate insurance you're liable for the rescue costs even if you come down in a sled (let alone the heli). There are plenty of busses that go direct to/from Munich (some with included lift passes), and there's the train (but you are likely to have to transfer). 

post #11 of 14

In my opinion,  Garmisch is a good place for skiing for 1-3 days but not more. Also, it takes a lot of time to reach Zugspitze by train from Garmisch. Garmisch Classic has good slopes but area is not so beautiful.

If you can choose, I would recommend you Tirol in Austria what is not far from Garmisch but you will get much higher quality.  

post #12 of 14

We will be in Garmisch Feb 21 for a week and we're coming all the way from (Eastern) Canada.  About the same distance and cost as going to British Columbia but with much more character.

 

Full disclosure:  I lived in Bavaria for a few years and went to Garmsich often as well as most of the big resorts in Austria, France and CH.

 

While I don't necessarily disagree with the post above I think they are a bit 'harsh'.  I depends what you're looking for and the snow conditions.  Some of the best skiing I've ever had was on the Zugspitze but it was a blue bird powder day.  The day before we were in St. Anton and while the snow was just as good it was over crowded due to most of the lifts being closed.

 

Sometimes I think people think they need hundreds of Km's of terrain but realistically only use a very small %, especially if they're off piste.  While the nightlife in Garmisch is not great the food and other facilities are MUCH better than any of the Austrian resorts.  Again, it depends on what your after.

post #13 of 14

I had many great powder days just down the street from Garmisch at Lermoos and Erhwald, Austria.  They have some pretty decent tree skiing there.

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Ingo75 View Post
 

Hey,

 

as a German let me say that Garmisch truly is the best known ski town we have to offer. It combines 40 km of slopes on 3 mountains, a nice little town and is known for the spectacular 7 km World Cup downhill run called 'Kandahar' - and that's pretty steep and challenging :-). On which side of the Zugspitze you should live, you can also ski the nearby resorts on the Austrian side of this impressive mountain, there's combined ski tickets which include Ehrwald, Lermoos and few more. It's not that bad. 

 

Remember that Garmisch - esp. for the mid altitude part of the resort - is not really safe in terms of snow before January. Snow can be great, but we have had poor seasons before. If you should consider the last weekend of January you'll see the town full/overcrowded because of the annual World Cup race. It's nice to see that once, but it kills the skiing.

 

But if you are taking this trip to get awesome skiing in the first place, and its a one shot for skiing the Alps, then the previous posts are right: turn to Austria.

 

Let me recommend Innsbruck, which you can fly in to. Really nice town, good for shopping and sightseeing and good food. Excellent skiing opportunities around, even for freeriders. Besides, with Sölden and the Arlberg Resorts (St. Anton, Lech) being only a 1- 1,5 h drive away, these resorts too are huge in terms of skiing options and apres ski. If you want to ski in the first place, my recommendation would be St. Anton.

 

I would definitely rent a car.


This is what we will be doing in a week and a half.  Garmisch will be our home base and going to St. Anton, Lec, Ischgl or others for variety or better snow.

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