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Hey There,

 

I'm new to this forum/site, and had a couple questions.. hopefully I put this in the right thread.. I just started snowboarding back in January 2015 and have been out about 8 times this past season.. Due to me being so new to boarding, we are planning a trip to JH.. But my question is, would it be doable for myself to ride the greens/blues? How difficult are these slopes?

 

I am not on any blacks and we live on the East coast.. But, mainly ride blues and greens.. So curious as to whether or not this is something worthwhile or not.. 

 

Thanks,

--L

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post #3 of 26
The question is, why did you decide on Jackson? Because that's where all your friends are already going? Because someone said it was the "best"? Or are you trying to find the place that's Best for You? If it's the first two possibilities, then nothing we say is going to change your mind about the destination, and maybe your real question is "my friends want to go there, but will I survive it?"
post #4 of 26
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Originally Posted by LunaDeathStryke View Post
 

Hey There,

 

I'm new to this forum/site, and had a couple questions.. hopefully I put this in the right thread.. I just started snowboarding back in January 2015 and have been out about 8 times this past season.. Due to me being so new to boarding, we are planning a trip to JH.. But my question is, would it be doable for myself to ride the greens/blues? How difficult are these slopes?

 

I am not on any blacks and we live on the East coast.. But, mainly ride blues and greens.. So curious as to whether or not this is something worthwhile or not.. 

 

Thanks,

--L


We had our EpicSki gathering at Jh last winter and did fine with a variety of different levels.  There *may* be a better place to go if you're looking specifically for blues and greens but you'll have fun at JH and find plenty of grins. 

post #5 of 26

Not to scare you but to educate you, Jackson has greens that are as tough as some blacks in the east. Jackson is a great destination resort if you are ready of it. If you are still just on the greens and blues in the east, you might not get your moneys worth in Jackson. You might be better off with more family oriented resorts in Colorado that have more intermediate terrain and quite frankly less expensive to get to and from with more accommodations. Copper and Breckenridge are two choices that have a ton of options for terrain and stay packages, Park City also. All of these will be significantly less to get to and from than Jackson plus they will have more terrain options for you. You will get to Jackson Hole and when yo have more skills under your belt it will be even more amazing. 

post #6 of 26
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Thanks everyone.. Appreciate it. My bf wants to go basically and he's been to all the other spots.. As he's been boarding longer than I have. I've been doing some research.. Talking to some friends who have boarded all over.. A buddy of mine has been boarding for two years and has already been to the alps most recently lol.. Crazy but beautiful!

We wanted a place where we both never have been.. And honestly.. That would be anywhere for me.. But just wanted to see if I would have fun or would it be worth it. We aren't going into mid Feb.. And will have more board time from beg of Dec until that time so.. Wasn't sure but wanted your opinions definitely..

He thinks I'll be fine but I don't know.. Never been west and from what my one friend told me.. (We grew up together in western NY and now he lives in California) he said east coast is nothing compared to West.. Again, I've never been so.. Just checking!
post #7 of 26
Has he been to Big Sky? Whitefish? Utah? "All the other spots" is a lot of territory just in the US.
post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by LunaDeathStryke View Post

He thinks I'll be fine ...

 

That phrase, said from an experienced rider or skier to a less experienced one, could make for a bad day.

 

I think many times people underestimate how comfortable others are with going above their level. Even as a low intermediate, I had some beginner friends that I'd say things like that to - and in hindsight, they weren't always fine (but sometimes they were!). 

 

Are you OK pushing yourself? Falling more often? Going faster? Looking down steeper trails than you've been on before? Or would those things scare you into having a bad day? If you're game for a rougher day that can still be fun, then yeah, you'll probably be fine. (Note I know nothing about Jackson Hole except its reputation and what I've read.)

 

Personally, when I've been the less experienced one, I've fallen my way down some trails that were over my head, but still had a good experience and learned and had fun. 

post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by LunaDeathStryke View Post

Thanks everyone.. Appreciate it. My bf wants to go basically and he's been to all the other spots.. As he's been boarding longer than I have. I've been doing some research.. Talking to some friends who have boarded all over.. A buddy of mine has been boarding for two years and has already been to the alps most recently lol.. Crazy but beautiful!

We wanted a place where we both never have been.. And honestly.. That would be anywhere for me.. But just wanted to see if I would have fun or would it be worth it. We aren't going into mid Feb.. And will have more board time from beg of Dec until that time so.. Wasn't sure but wanted your opinions definitely..

He thinks I'll be fine but I don't know.. Never been west and from what my one friend told me.. (We grew up together in western NY and now he lives in California) he said east coast is nothing compared to West.. Again, I've never been so.. Just checking!


I think you'll have fun, but I think there are better places to go for someone at your skill set.  My suggestion is that you take a lesson while you're there so you're steered in the right direction by someone who knows the mountains and can help you tactically. 

post #10 of 26
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Yes.. you name it he's pretty much been to them all in the US. It was either coming down to Whistler or JH. :/

post #11 of 26
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@dbostedo - Season starts beginning of Dec here in VA.. We'll hit Snowshoe again, which I LOVED.. but coming from Western, NY.. we have nothing but ice on our mountains as well.. and even hitting PA as well (Liberty/Whitetail). I can gain speed fine, stop fine, it's practicing more of my carving through the mountains I need more practice on. I'm considering taking a private lesson once the season hits on that. Once I get that down I'm fine.. I ride goofy as well.. But falling.. meh. It' happens.. :) Although falling on ice.. not a huge fan of :p But the powder.. ooh yeah bring it on! 

 

I have a son as well, but he has no desire or interest for the winter sports yet.. Maybe next year ;) 

 

@Trekchick  - Thanks for the feedback as well.. I figured I'd take a lesson locally here (we're in VA) and then see how things run through Dec and Jan.. If I'm still struggling on my carving (only thing I really need help with) then I will grab another lesson at JH or wherever we end up going.. 

 

Again, everyone thank you VERY much. With having these comments, looking at videos on YouTube on JH and taking a look at a lot of the terrain maps.. I think I'd still have a blast.. I'm not looking to outrun anyone if anything, have fun.. learn more.. and get into some fresh powder.. And just maintain is all I want and gain some more experience. 

post #12 of 26
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@dbostedo - Season starts beginning of Dec here in VA.. We'll hit Snowshoe again, which I LOVED.. but coming from Western, NY.. we have nothing but ice on our mountains as well.. and even hitting PA as well (Liberty/Whitetail). I can gain speed fine, stop fine, it's practicing more of my carving through the mountains I need more practice on. I'm considering taking a private lesson once the season hits on that. Once I get that down I'm fine.. I ride goofy as well.. But falling.. meh. It' happens.. :) Although falling on ice.. not a huge fan of :p But the powder.. ooh yeah bring it on! 

 

I have a son as well, but he has no desire or interest for the winter sports yet.. Maybe next year ;) 

 

@Trekchick  - Thanks for the feedback as well.. I figured I'd take a lesson locally here (we're in VA) and then see how things run through Dec and Jan.. If I'm still struggling on my carving (only thing I really need help with) then I will grab another lesson at JH or wherever we end up going.. 

 

Again, everyone thank you VERY much. With having these comments, looking at videos on YouTube on JH and taking a look at a lot of the terrain maps.. I think I'd still have a blast.. I'm not looking to outrun anyone if anything, have fun.. learn more.. and get into some fresh powder.. And just maintain is all I want and gain some more experience. 


Welcome to EpicSki!  Always glad to "meet" folks from VA.  I live in central NC but my home mountain is Massanutten, near Harrisonburg.  Have several friends who live in the DC area who have Showtime passes and ski Whitetail/Liberty/Roundtop pretty regularly.  Have you noticed there is a regional thread yet?

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/142548/2015-16-southeast-news-meetups-weather-nc-va-wv-plus-folks-in-sc-ga-tn-al-fl

 

The Ski School at Massanutten is one of the best in the region.  They may well have more snowboard instructors than ski instructors.  Put in some terrain-based learning features in the teaching area last season.  This season the new ski school building will be in operation.  If you can get out there for a weekend, perhaps your son would enjoy the non-skiing stuff like snow tubing or the indoor waterpark.  The children's program is stellar if he's willing to give sliding on snow a try.  Ski classes start at age 4 and snowboarding at age 7.

 

Note that group lessons in early season, meaning before Dec. 20 or so, can end up being private lessons with an experienced instructor.  New part-time instructors usually haven't finished instructor training yet.  So more likely to get someone who's been teaching for 5+ years.

post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by LunaDeathStryke View Post
 


@dbostedo - Season starts beginning of Dec here in VA.. We'll hit Snowshoe again, which I LOVED.. but coming from Western, NY.. we have nothing but ice on our mountains as well.. and even hitting PA as well (Liberty/Whitetail). I can gain speed fine, stop fine, it's practicing more of my carving through the mountains I need more practice on. I'm considering taking a private lesson once the season hits on that. Once I get that down I'm fine.. I ride goofy as well.. But falling.. meh. It' happens.. :) Although falling on ice.. not a huge fan of :p But the powder.. ooh yeah bring it on! 

 

I have a son as well, but he has no desire or interest for the winter sports yet.. Maybe next year ;) 

 

@Trekchick  - Thanks for the feedback as well.. I figured I'd take a lesson locally here (we're in VA) and then see how things run through Dec and Jan.. If I'm still struggling on my carving (only thing I really need help with) then I will grab another lesson at JH or wherever we end up going.

 

Again, everyone thank you VERY much. With having these comments, looking at videos on YouTube on JH and taking a look at a lot of the terrain maps.. I think I'd still have a blast.. I'm not looking to outrun anyone if anything, have fun.. learn more.. and get into some fresh powder.. And just maintain is all I want and gain some more experience. 

Good for you that you're taking lessons.  Its always better to take a lesson from a pro than a boyfriend. :D

Part of the reason I suggested a lesson at JH is because it could help you with the terrain and the instructor will be helpful on selecting good terrain for you according to skill level at the time. 

post #14 of 26

Do you always go on the same trails as your boyfriend?  Will you be happy at a big mountain going out alone on terrain that's good for you, but that's easier terrain than he is interested in?  Or will he be happy accompanying you on terrain that's easier than he is interested in personally?  

 

This may be no issue if the two of you are fine with splitting up and skiing alone.  However, the attitude of an experienced skier who thinks another much less experienced skier "will be fine" is often misguided, and can lead to problems.  It's a red flag.  I am assuming this applies to snowboarding as well as skiing, but that may not be the case.  

 

With skiers, those problems arise when the lesser skilled person follows the experienced one onto difficult terrain after being reassured that all will be fine, then when it isn't, the more experienced person is unable to handle the issue with compassion, patience, and understanding.  This scenario happens often.  It can even end relationships.

 

Yes, I'm talking about worst case scenario here, but I don't mean to imply that it's the only outcome of going to a mountain with a reputation like Jackson Hole has.  Someone needs to say it though, just to put a bug in your ear, and you did ask.  There is a continuum of other possibilities, however.   Maybe you love challenges and like to get in over your head, have no issue with falling and getting tired from getting back up repeatedly, and enjoy thrilling terrain that scares you.  Or maybe your boyfriend is happy to spend time on easier terrain with you and the two of you do just fine alternating from staying together on your terrain to both of you going your separate ways.  And maybe this doesn't happen with snowboarders for some technical reason that I'm unaware of.

 

You'll get lots of information here about Jackson Hole so you can make a good decision, so stay tuned.  Have a great vacation!  

post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Do you always go on the same trails as your boyfriend?  Will you be happy at a big mountain going out alone on terrain that's good for you, but that's easier terrain than he is interested in?  Or will he be happy accompanying you on terrain that's easier than he is interested in personally?  

 

This may be no issue if the two of you are fine with splitting up and skiing alone.  However, the attitude of an experienced skier who thinks another much less experienced skier "will be fine" is often misguided, and can lead to problems.  It's a red flag.  I am assuming this applies to snowboarding as well as skiing, but that may not be the case.  

 

With skiers, those problems arise when the lesser skilled person follows the experienced one onto difficult terrain after being reassured that all will be fine, then when it isn't, the more experienced person is unable to handle the issue with compassion, patience, and understanding.  This scenario happens often.  It can even end relationships.

 

Yes, I'm talking about worst case scenario here, but I don't mean to imply that it's the only outcome of going to a mountain with a reputation like Jackson Hole has.  Someone needs to say it though, just to put a bug in your ear, and you did ask.  There is a continuum of other possibilities, however.   Maybe you love challenges and like to get in over your head, have no issue with falling and getting tired from getting back up repeatedly, and enjoy thrilling terrain that scares you.  Or maybe your boyfriend is happy to spend time on easier terrain with you and the two of you do just fine alternating from staying together on your terrain to both of you going your separate ways.  And maybe this doesn't happen with snowboarders for some technical reason that I'm unaware of.

 

You'll get lots of information here about Jackson Hole so you can make a good decision, so stay tuned.  Have a great vacation!  

 

I agree with this.  You do need to be careful to recalibrate your "what is a blue run" sense at Jackson Hole.  

 

It is kind of a waste to go to JH before you can use the terrain that it is famous for.  But if you want to go because your boyfriend can use it, that's fine.

post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by LunaDeathStryke View Post
 


@dbostedo - Season starts beginning of Dec here in VA.. We'll hit Snowshoe again, which I LOVED.. but coming from Western, NY.. we have nothing but ice on our mountains as well.. and even hitting PA as well (Liberty/Whitetail). I can gain speed fine, stop fine, it's practicing more of my carving through the mountains I need more practice on. I'm considering taking a private lesson once the season hits on that. Once I get that down I'm fine.. I ride goofy as well.. But falling.. meh. It' happens.. :) Although falling on ice.. not a huge fan of :p But the powder.. ooh yeah bring it on! 

 

[snip]

What trails did you like best at Snowshoe?  Did you go over to the Western Territories at all?  Could you handle everything over at Silver Creek?  Since I've skied Snowshoe and JH, would help to know where you've been having fun so far.

post #17 of 26

There are good reasons for the "cautious" advice already given. If you were to take the tram at JH as your first run, there is a 99% chance that you'd have a very bad day and a ruined trip. The "you'll be fine" attitude is a red flag for potential problems. But there's also a good argument that you actually will be fine. Although JH's greens and blues are a step up from East coast resorts, most of them are wide enough that you can zig zag your way down to effectively flatten the trails even when there isn't a lot of fresh snow. If you are on the right gear (e.g. a board that is not too stiff) and you go at your own speed (e.g. slow), you can not only have a fantastic time, but you can also accelerate your learning curve. When I took my first "snowboard" trip out West I really sucked (e.g. had been down the blues at Whitetail, but wouldn't say I could ride the blues). I alternated days between skiing and riding at Wolf Creek. I hooked up with some skiers on day 1 on skis. On day 2, they insisted I tag along with them while I was on my board despite my protests of sucking. The first day I was quickly taken way over my head and was falling a ton. They waited patiently and without criticism. My second day on the board I was able to keep up. My third day on the board I was definitely "riding" the black trails vs crashing them. I made progress out West 10 times faster than back home. A lot of it was the soft snow. Some of it was the wider trails. It did turn out fine even though it could have been the same story line as the usual horror stories.

 

At JH, make sure you start on the Apres Vous side and work your way up to more difficult trails.  Start with a few laps on the Tee-Winot quad before tackling the Apres-Vous quad. I'll bet after one run  you'll think you're ready to move up, but at least do a second where you step up your speed. If you're able to ride off the top at Whitetail, you'll quickly get the urge to move up from Apres Vous to the Bridger Gondola. There are easy ways down from there, but there are also wrong turns where you can easily get stuck in tough terrain (e.g. moguls). It's not out of the question that you'll be able to step up from there to the tram and get over to the Hobacks. That would make for an Epic experience. 

 

JH is a real ski town. It's a great choice for a first trip even though there is less beginner terrain than some of the other mega resorts. Don't forget to report back here to tell us how it went.

post #18 of 26

Hi...You seem to have an adventurous spirit, so I'm sure you'll have fun wherever you go. I switched over to skiing from snowboarding last season and also happened to join last years Gathering in Jackson Hole on a whim. I was really bitten by the ski bug. 

 

Here are my 2 cents on JH as a former strong-ish intermediate snowboarder and intermediate skier.....Jackson Hole and the surrounding landscape was pretty mind blowing for me. I had never been to that part of the country. As a city person, the area really felt "wild" and untouched. If you are into nature travel, you will like it...

 

Terrain-wise, I found the intermediate options a bit limited. Some of them are classified as double blue, which are very steep and I think would be classified as blacks anywhere else. I enjoyed this challenge, however I found in general, the blue runs are not that "interesting" in terms of terrain variation. There are a lot that just go straight down in a smooth "lane" with not many twists or turns or fun "features"...This will be great for improving carving though....Another one of their main "blue" sections actually seems to be a crossing point for all runs and skiiers, so even on the blues/double blues, there will be very advanced people whizzing by you....I found this kind of scary at times.  I haven't been engrossed in snow sports my entire life like many people on this forum, but for me, JH had the highest concentration of extremely good skiers and boarders I've ever seen in one place. The second would prob be Squaw, i f you have been there for comparison.

 

ALSO, as a snowboarder, you shoud be aware that a lot of the "blue" runs are actually just long traverses that take you to different sections of the mountain. This might be a bit challenging/annoying as a snowboarder, since they can be narrow and flat-ish, and sometimes there will be very steep/mogul-y drop-offs if you accidentally go off the traverses... As a boarder, you will have to maintain speed in order to avoid unbuckling and walking in some of these sections...Combine this with very good skiiers/snowboarders whizzing by you.  I don't mean to be discouraging, just letting you know what I felt as an intermediate....Also, the benefit of snowboarding is that you can get down most "hard" things by slipping down, but the skiers will hate you for ruining their snow!!

 

As a snowboarder, you may find their "stash" parks a lot of fun. Many of them were closed when I went, since the snow seemed low/icy in those areas....But I did go into some of the lower level parks which were very fun. I think these are in and around the "green/blue" area of Jackson. They are not just jumps....there seemed to be neat windy paths with rollers and stuff like that.

 

Finally, i would HIGHLY recommend you guys take a side trip to nearby Grand Targhee....It's much more mellow and has a very mom and pop feel to it. I didn't feel any anxiety about expert skiers/boarders running over me....Extremely beautiful as well, with a clear view of the Grand Tetons. I loved this place. It felt like a little fairytale land with lots of nooks and crannies to explore.....And, they have an extremely chill and fun "kids" area (open to everyone)....where there are lots of little fun features and terrain. As a snowboarder, this section would be awesome.

 

Have fun!

post #19 of 26
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Finally, i would HIGHLY recommend you guys take a side trip to nearby Grand Targhee....It's much more mellow and has a very mom and pop feel to it. I didn't feel any anxiety about expert skiers/boarders running over me....Extremely beautiful as well, with a clear view of the Grand Tetons. I loved this place. It felt like a little fairytale land with lots of nooks and crannies to explore.....And, they have an extremely chill and fun "kids" area (open to everyone)....where there are lots of little fun features and terrain. As a snowboarder, this section would be awesome.

 

Targhee tends to get more snow. Getting there and back from Jackson can be tricky sometimes because the pass gets closed now and then because of avalanches. On my first trip to JH I lost half a powder morning trying to catch a bus ride to Targhee that ended up being canceled because the pass was closed. The driver did give us the option of the 3 hour drive around the long way. Uh - no. But it is worth trying to get there, especially for intermediates.

 

There is also Snow King in town. It's got even fewer options for intermediate skiers and riders, but you won't have to fight so hard for fresh snow on a powder day. Where else can you ride on a trail that is also used for snowmobile hill climbing competitions?

post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by kasuncion View Post
 

Hi...You seem to have an adventurous spirit, so I'm sure you'll have fun wherever you go. I switched over to skiing from snowboarding last season and also happened to join last years Gathering in Jackson Hole on a whim. I was really bitten by the ski bug. 

 

Here are my 2 cents on JH as a former strong-ish intermediate snowboarder and intermediate skier.....Jackson Hole and the surrounding landscape was pretty mind blowing for me. I had never been to that part of the country. As a city person, the area really felt "wild" and untouched. If you are into nature travel, you will like it...

 

Terrain-wise, I found the intermediate options a bit limited. Some of them are classified as double blue, which are very steep and I think would be classified as blacks anywhere else. I enjoyed this challenge, however I found in general, the blue runs are not that "interesting" in terms of terrain variation. There are a lot that just go straight down in a smooth "lane" with not many twists or turns or fun "features"...This will be great for improving carving though....Another one of their main "blue" sections actually seems to be a crossing point for all runs and skiiers, so even on the blues/double blues, there will be very advanced people whizzing by you....I found this kind of scary at times.  I haven't been engrossed in snow sports my entire life like many people on this forum, but for me, JH had the highest concentration of extremely good skiers and boarders I've ever seen in one place. The second would prob be Squaw, i f you have been there for comparison.

 

ALSO, as a snowboarder, you shoud be aware that a lot of the "blue" runs are actually just long traverses that take you to different sections of the mountain. This might be a bit challenging/annoying as a snowboarder, since they can be narrow and flat-ish, and sometimes there will be very steep/mogul-y drop-offs if you accidentally go off the traverses... As a boarder, you will have to maintain speed in order to avoid unbuckling and walking in some of these sections...Combine this with very good skiiers/snowboarders whizzing by you.  I don't mean to be discouraging, just letting you know what I felt as an intermediate....Also, the benefit of snowboarding is that you can get down most "hard" things by slipping down, but the skiers will hate you for ruining their snow!!

 

As a snowboarder, you may find their "stash" parks a lot of fun. Many of them were closed when I went, since the snow seemed low/icy in those areas....But I did go into some of the lower level parks which were very fun. I think these are in and around the "green/blue" area of Jackson. They are not just jumps....there seemed to be neat windy paths with rollers and stuff like that.

 

Finally, i would HIGHLY recommend you guys take a side trip to nearby Grand Targhee....It's much more mellow and has a very mom and pop feel to it. I didn't feel any anxiety about expert skiers/boarders running over me....Extremely beautiful as well, with a clear view of the Grand Tetons. I loved this place. It felt like a little fairytale land with lots of nooks and crannies to explore.....And, they have an extremely chill and fun "kids" area (open to everyone)....where there are lots of little fun features and terrain. As a snowboarder, this section would be awesome.

 

Have fun!

@LunaDeathStryke  ^^^^^ This is some of the best information available to you from someone who's been in your shoes.....errrrr snowboard boots. 

post #21 of 26
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Do you always go on the same trails as your boyfriend?  Will you be happy at a big mountain going out alone on terrain that's good for you, but that's easier terrain than he is interested in?  Or will he be happy accompanying you on terrain that's easier than he is interested in personally?  

This may be no issue if the two of you are fine with splitting up and skiing alone.  However, the attitude of an experienced skier who thinks another much less experienced skier "will be fine" is often misguided, and can lead to problems.  It's a red flag.  I am assuming this applies to snowboarding as well as skiing, but that may not be the case.  

With skiers, those problems arise when the lesser skilled person follows the experienced one onto difficult terrain after being reassured that all will be fine, then when it isn't, the more experienced person is unable to handle the issue with compassion, patience, and understanding.  This scenario happens often.  It can even end relationships.

Yes, I'm talking about worst case scenario here, but I don't mean to imply that it's the only outcome of going to a mountain with a reputation like Jackson Hole has.  Someone needs to say it though, just to put a bug in your ear, and you did ask.  There is a continuum of other possibilities, however.   Maybe you love challenges and like to get in over your head, have no issue with falling and getting tired from getting back up repeatedly, and enjoy thrilling terrain that scares you.  Or maybe your boyfriend is happy to spend time on easier terrain with you and the two of you do just fine alternating from staying together on your terrain to both of you going your separate ways.  And maybe this doesn't happen with snowboarders for some technical reason that I'm unaware of.

You'll get lots of information here about Jackson Hole so you can make a good decision, so stay tuned.  Have a great vacation!  

We usually ride together for a few runs then we do our own thing. We have no problem doing that either.. I know he really wants to go and wants me to go too and we both think I'll be able to do some territory.. And i appreciate the comments.. smile.gif
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by kasuncion View Post

Hi...You seem to have an adventurous spirit, so I'm sure you'll have fun wherever you go. I switched over to skiing from snowboarding last season and also happened to join last years Gathering in Jackson Hole on a whim. I was really bitten by the ski bug. 

Here are my 2 cents on JH as a former strong-ish intermediate snowboarder and intermediate skier.....Jackson Hole and the surrounding landscape was pretty mind blowing for me. I had never been to that part of the country. As a city person, the area really felt "wild" and untouched. If you are into nature travel, you will like it...

Terrain-wise, I found the intermediate options a bit limited. Some of them are classified as double blue, which are very steep and I think would be classified as blacks anywhere else. I enjoyed this challenge, however I found in general, the blue runs are not that "interesting" in terms of terrain variation. There are a lot that just go straight down in a smooth "lane" with not many twists or turns or fun "features"...This will be great for improving carving though....Another one of their main "blue" sections actually seems to be a crossing point for all runs and skiiers, so even on the blues/double blues, there will be very advanced people whizzing by you....I found this kind of scary at times.  I haven't been engrossed in snow sports my entire life like many people on this forum, but for me, JH had the highest concentration of extremely good skiers and boarders I've ever seen in one place. The second would prob be Squaw, i f you have been there for comparison.

ALSO, as a snowboarder, you shoud be aware that a lot of the "blue" runs are actually just long traverses that take you to different sections of the mountain. This might be a bit challenging/annoying as a snowboarder, since they can be narrow and flat-ish, and sometimes there will be very steep/mogul-y drop-offs if you accidentally go off the traverses... As a boarder, you will have to maintain speed in order to avoid unbuckling and walking in some of these sections...Combine this with very good skiiers/snowboarders whizzing by you.  I don't mean to be discouraging, just letting you know what I felt as an intermediate....Also, the benefit of snowboarding is that you can get down most "hard" things by slipping down, but the skiers will hate you for ruining their snow!!

As a snowboarder, you may find their "stash" parks a lot of fun. Many of them were closed when I went, since the snow seemed low/icy in those areas....But I did go into some of the lower level parks which were very fun. I think these are in and around the "green/blue" area of Jackson. They are not just jumps....there seemed to be neat windy paths with rollers and stuff like that.

Finally, i would HIGHLY recommend you guys take a side trip to nearby Grand Targhee....It's much more mellow and has a very mom and pop feel to it. I didn't feel any anxiety about expert skiers/boarders running over me....Extremely beautiful as well, with a clear view of the Grand Tetons. I loved this place. It felt like a little fairytale land with lots of nooks and crannies to explore.....And, they have an extremely chill and fun "kids" area (open to everyone)....where there are lots of little fun features and terrain. As a snowboarder, this section would be awesome.

Have fun!

Wow!! Thank you so much for this post. I'm going to share with my bf when he gets home but I will stick to the smaller ones maybe at first.. But then go big or go home right? smile.gif thanksgiving starts our season here so I'll be getting out there. My bf even said towards the end of the season this past year I was getting much better.. And even when he started he said once his second season came in.. He felt more comfortable. I'm going to take another lesson locally and we talked last night and like you all said maybe take a lesson there that way they can let me know based on my riding which are the best areas for me to ride.

I am a little adventurous and am excited for this trip.. We felt financially it'll be about the same no matter where we go.. But either way, I'm excited, pumped, nervous but a good nervous, etc. I'm prepared to fall and Idc.. I'm from the Rochester NY area so it's tons of ice back home.. And even in PA.. I've fallen whatever.. Not going to stop me from learning and trying though. Although as I get older it hurts a little more wink.gif but no worries.. I'll manage I'm sure.

My bf wants to make sure I have fun.. And I think I will and we had fun at snowshoe.. I'll have to look up which ones I went on because I know someone else was asking.. And we will go at least twice probably.. In Feb we went when they got hit with about 3' we followed that storm good smile.gif and was my first time in fresh powder and I loved it so much.. smile.gif
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What trails did you like best at Snowshoe?  Did you go over to the Western Territories at all?  Could you handle everything over at Silver Creek?  Since I've skied Snowshoe and JH, would help to know where you've been having fun so far.

We went Feb 21 when we had 3' of snow.. smile.gif but we didn't get to do silver Creek because of the shuttle issue and we waited a good hour or hour and a half almost and we left and went back to the hotel.. Ran mostly blues but some greens too since it was my first time at a resort like that.. I've been to whitetail and liberty a lot this past year too.. And then Bristol back home near Rochester NY.
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Oh and also.. For my gear.. I have arbor Popparrazi board and ride bindings and my boots are burton.. I think someone may have referenced the gear lol
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What trails did you like best at Snowshoe?  Did you go over to the Western Territories at all?  Could you handle everything over at Silver Creek?  Since I've skied Snowshoe and JH, would help to know where you've been having fun so far.

We went Feb 21 when we had 3' of snow.. smile.gif but we didn't get to do silver Creek because of the shuttle issue and we waited a good hour or hour and a half almost and we left and went back to the hotel.. Ran mostly blues but some greens too since it was my first time at a resort like that.. I've been to whitetail and liberty a lot this past year too.. And then Bristol back home near Rochester NY.

 

I remember reading about people getting stuck at Snowshoe that weekend.  Certainly beats not being able to get there because the roads were impassable.  Silver Creek is a better place to practice on weekends because during the day there are no crowds even when lift lines are 20 min at the Basin.  The black trails at the far side are not quite as steep as most blues at JH and much, much shorter.

 

Given that you liked the blues at Snowshoe in soft snow, you'll be fine at JH.  Especially if you have a lesson or two before you head out west.  The advantage of having lessons as you start the season is that you are less likely to develop bad habits and more likely to progress when you are on slopes near home.

 

Grand Targhee has a long green trail from the summit with great views.  But it's pretty narrow in places so I don't know how it would be for an intermediate boarder.  If you go there, perhaps have your BF check it out first.  There are several places where you have to keep up speed in order to get up a slight uphill.

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I remember reading about people getting stuck at Snowshoe that weekend.  Certainly beats not being able to get there because the roads were impassable.  Silver Creek is a better place to practice on weekends because during the day there are no crowds even when lift lines are 20 min at the Basin.  The black trails at the far side are not quite as steep as most blues at JH and much, much shorter.

Given that you liked the blues at Snowshoe in soft snow, you'll be fine at JH.  Especially if you have a lesson or two before you head out west.  The advantage of having lessons as you start the season is that you are less likely to develop bad habits and more likely to progress when you are on slopes near home.

Grand Targhee has a long green trail from the summit with great views.  But it's pretty narrow in places so I don't know how it would be for an intermediate boarder.  If you go there, perhaps have your BF check it out first.  There are several places where you have to keep up speed in order to get up a slight uphill.

Yes definitely.. We left at 330 in the morning for snowshoe since it's a 4 hour drive for us.. And we were lucky we got there when we did.. Shortly after we arrived they shut down all the roads up the mountain.

Yes, I plan on at least one lesson here.. I did a group one in PA end of January which was my first time boarding.. And it was good. And it helped.. Since I'd never been. Got better over the times I went to 4 different places this past season. And we agreed that I may end up getting one for the morning of when we get to JH.. We still are deciding but pretty sure it's JH. I'm not trying to get myself and do it the right way and have been getting better over time ha. But yeah I'd have him go down some before I hit them so he can give me his opinions since he knows what I can and can't ride and if it's too steep or not and all..
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