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post #1 of 15
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Last spring I hot waxed my skis (with Hot Sauce) and did not scrape in preparation for summer storage.  To bring them back before skiing this fall, can I re-melt the wax with my iron and hot scrape to clean the bases or should I not bother and just scrape off the summer wax?  Is one way better than the other before proceeding with the normal wax/scrape/brush cycle for the new season or does it not matter at all?

post #2 of 15

Just cold scrape.

post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by FatChance View Post
 

Last spring I hot waxed my skis (with Hot Sauce) and did not scrape in preparation for summer storage.  To bring them back before skiing this fall, can I re-melt the wax with my iron and hot scrape to clean the bases or should I not bother and just scrape off the summer wax?  Is one way better than the other before proceeding with the normal wax/scrape/brush cycle for the new season or does it not matter at all?


Storage wax should be scraped off.   Then brushed out thoroughly.   Because the surface wax may have "dried out" it's best to get rid of it.

 

Then start the waxing process with Dominator Base Renew.

http://www.dominatorwax.com/products/renewg


Edited by Jacques - 10/8/15 at 8:23pm
post #4 of 15
You're in Colorado. Skip the storage wax, then you won't have to scrape it off. I started skipping it a couple years back, since I do a lot of pre season prep and my storage area is very dry. No harm done. If I was leaving them in a garage, that would be different.
post #5 of 15

I don't every buy "storage wax" -- I just throw on a thick coat of whatever general-purpose wax I have around at the end of the season. 

 

As I prep for the new year I've been re-melting this and hot scraping it off. It is is really dirty, I'll do another hot scrape pass. If it is just a bit dirty I'll call it good, add a new layer of wax and cold scrape that when it cools.

 

Of course, I'm a bit of slacker and not racing. If you're truly obsessed about your bases I imagine the recommended practice is cold scrape existing wax, hot scrape repeatedly til clean, then a final wax and cold scrape.

 

FWIW -- I live in Denver and am forced to store my skis in a basement. 

post #6 of 15

It's best to cold scrape. Your storage wax accumulates dust and dirt over the off season. If you melt the storage wax you run the risk of dirt getting into your bases and then you really need to do a hot scrape. Save yourself the trouble. Do a cold scrape and lay a coat of base prep and your you're good to go with your favorite for the conditions.

 

Karl

post #7 of 15

Cold scrape, then lay down down a good base layer, then whatever temp wax for your outing.

 

I usually hot scrape till clean before I lay the storage coat down (really just a warm temp wax).  So in the new season no real need to hot scrape after I peel that storage layer off.

post #8 of 15

"Hot sauce" is better than "storage" wax, and meant to be better than most people's regular wax.  You've tainted your post by calling it "storage wax".

I would go ahead and scrape and brush and go out on it.  

If you want to pull out your iron, I would say you should use fiberlene method of wax removal.

 

 

But for more details it depends how many days you usually ski and how important it is for you to have best skis on each ski day.

 

If you're skiing 100days a season, and you're out on opening day in marginal conditions on the white ribbon of death, just go out on the hot sauce. unless you're obsessive and waxing your skis every single day and 100times a season, or even 50times a season 

 

 

But If you're only skiing 10days a season, each day is super valuable to you, so go aheand and prep your skis to give you the best experience every one of those precious 10 days.

post #9 of 15

I also use Hot Sauce as my "storage wax" because I can just scrape and go the first day of the new season. Although wax that has been sitting there for several months takes some elbow grease to scrape!

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by hbear View Post
 

Cold scrape, then lay down down a good base layer, then whatever temp wax for your outing.

 

I usually hot scrape till clean before I lay the storage coat down (really just a warm temp wax).  So in the new season no real need to hot scrape after I peel that storage layer off.


I gave up hot scraping long time ago when Swix made their Glide Wax Cleaner.  It does not remove hydrocarbon waxes.  It just softens them a bit,  You might want to try it out.  I have found it to be very effective.

post #11 of 15

Thanks.

 

I don't find hot scraping (usually done when wax is still in a liquid-like form) that problematic or tedious. Even when really dirty, I've found it it usually only takes 3 scrapes at most to get them clean.  Only time I need to do more is with new skis or after a grind.

 

I've stayed away from base cleaners because I've found them to strip wax out of the base (negating all the time spent building wax into the base).

 

I'll keep it in mind.

post #12 of 15
At the end of the season I clean and repair the base and tune edges. Then I melt on a thick layer of normal wax.

St the start of the next season I just cold scrape the wax off and brush out as usual.
post #13 of 15
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Thanks.

 

I don't find hot scraping (usually done when wax is still in a liquid-like form) that problematic or tedious. Even when really dirty, I've found it it usually only takes 3 scrapes at most to get them clean.  Only time I need to do more is with new skis or after a grind.

 

I've stayed away from base cleaners because I've found them to strip wax out of the base (negating all the time spent building wax into the base).

 

I'll keep it in mind.


Your thinking of a wax remover.  They dry the base and don't clean fluoro's.   I'm telling you, Swix Glide Wax Cleaner DOES NOT DRY A BASE OR REMOVE HYDROCARBON WAXES.

 

I really like it and save ton of pricey wax by not using it to hot scrape.  
 

Here you go from Swix :  For years there has been a struggle to "purge" the old fluoro from race skis because it could build up and prevent the new wax from properly penetrating into the base. The solution is the new Swix Glide Wax Cleaner that removes the old fluoro while leaving the basic hydrocarbon wax intact. Apply cleaner and brush with nylon brush while wet. Wipe clean, let dry 5-30 minutes and brush with stiff bronze or soft stainless brush. Iron in base prep wax. 150ml spray and 500ml liquid bottle

post #14 of 15
I use the dirtbag option for hot scrapes and storage waxing, grocery store paraffin. Works great and costs about 3$ per lb. the money saved on wax goes towards beer, which I'd argue is the most important component of
waxing
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by Juan Hitta View Post

I use the dirtbag option for hot scrapes and storage waxing, grocery store paraffin. Works great and costs about 3$ per lb. the money saved on wax goes towards beer, which I'd argue is the most important component of
waxing


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