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WIDER brakes for Marker Bindings???

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

My new skis are 143mm waist, but the widest brakes I can find for Marker are 136mm.

 

Anyone know a solution?   And don't tell me to rebend the 136mm unless you have done it sucessfully. I'm sure they will break.

post #2 of 22
Just out of curiosity, why do you think you need brakes on a ski that fat? Presumably they are for powder only.
post #3 of 22
attach a leash to your snowboards i mean skis.
post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by joe strummer View Post

Just out of curiosity, why do you think you need brakes on a ski that fat? Presumably they are for powder only.

 

Yeh, I had the visual of a bedsheet sail on a supertanker too.

post #5 of 22

You will probably have to make you own.

 

Cut the plastic end tabs off the existing brake arms. They are nowhere near large enough to provide the drag and braking force required.

Easy DIY upgrade. 

Get 4 avalanche shovels, Toss the handles and weld one scoop to each of your existing modified Marker binding bake arms.

Make sure the shovels scoops are faced forward so they will provide enough drag and braking force.

 

You can look in backcountry.com They are running a sale today. Ends at midnight.

 

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post #6 of 22

They will likely fit well enough. Maybe with minor bending with the boots inserted. 

post #7 of 22
Uh, they won't break. Really, they won't. Use a section of AL tubing for leverage.
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Uh, they won't break. Really, they won't. Use a section of AL tubing for leverage.

 

Vintage bike handlebars are perfect here.

post #9 of 22

It's only a 7mm difference, 3.5 per side. Most brakes fit skis a few mm's wider than their listed width so there's a really good chance they'll fit without even needing to be bent. Even if you did have to widen them, you could bend them a few mm's by hand. Man up :D

post #10 of 22

I'm thinking that the OP is not very familiar with the metric system.

 

There are roughly 25mm to the inch so the width increase needed, 7mm, is slightly more than 1/4 inch, This means that each arm of the brake needs to be bent just over 1/8 inch. Thus the bent brakes will not break.

post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 

EVERYONE needs Brakes on their skis.

 

For one thing its REQUIRED inbounds.

 

For another, I WISH I only skied powder. I have skied frozen top out of bounds and cat skiing, I don't want lose a ski or have to hike down into the woods. Also  if i lose a ski on a groomed or hard packed or spring refrozen slope I don't want it to run away.

post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by SmittyNYUSA View Post
 

My new skis are 143mm waist, but the widest brakes I can find for Marker are 136mm.

 

Anyone know a solution?   And don't tell me to rebend the 136mm unless you have done it sucessfully. I'm sure they will break.

They will not brake. You can also Dremel or sand the inside part of the brake's plastic to add a bit more room. 

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by SmittyNYUSA View Post
 

EVERYONE needs Brakes on their skis.

 

For one thing its REQUIRED inbounds.

 

For another, I WISH I only skied powder. I have skied frozen top out of bounds and cat skiing, I don't want lose a ski or have to hike down into the woods. Also  if i lose a ski on a groomed or hard packed or spring refrozen slope I don't want it to run away.

 

A 143 waist ski for inbound hard pack? :dunno

 

When there is enough snow to float a 143, the brakes are useless anyhow. Better off with powder cords or just crank up the DIN.  

post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post
 

 

A 143 waist ski for inbound hard pack? :dunno

 

When there is enough snow to float a 143, the brakes are useless anyhow. Better off with powder cords or just crank up the DIN.  

 

This is not true. In denser deep snow, they still help arrest the ski (sometimes). Inbounds (where some form of retention is required) , there are places where such skis can see a dozen or two legit days a year of use. Yet you still end up on icy/hardpack ridges, packed traverses, groomer interconnects, etc. So you just have to deal with it now and again. Likewise, even heli-skiing you often have to deal with highly variable conditions here and there. I'd rather put a working brake on than use straps... 

 

OP - what skis are you referencing? 

post #15 of 22
Just. Bend. Brakes. No ski choice debates. smile.gif
post #16 of 22

Going by the OP's handle I assume he is NY / NE based. Hard to find that kind of snow here.

If the snow is dense and deep, don't really need a ski that wide.   

post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post
 

Going by the OP's handle I assume he is NY / NE based. Hard to find that kind of snow here.

If the snow is dense and deep, don't really need a ski that wide.   

 

Normally when skiing powder that is only 2"-3" deep a powder ski is really still edging on the hardpack beneath the fresh snow. But a 143mm wide ski in 2"-3" snow depth might just float the skier above the hardpack.:dunno

 

Like they say, "Whatever floats your boat" and in this case there is plenty of float.

post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by SmittyNYUSA View Post
 

EVERYONE needs Brakes on their skis.

 

For one thing its REQUIRED inbounds.

 

 

Ah, but does the rule actually say 'spring loaded mechanical brake mounted on the ski to act against snow'?  

Or does it say something along the lines of 'Skiers must wear retention straps or use other devices to prevent runaway equipment'?  

Since you have NY in your screen name let's have a look at NY state:

http://www.windhammountain.com/the-mountain/slope-safety/

 

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12. To wear retention straps or other devices to prevent runaway skis;

 

http://www.huntermtn.com/learning/ski-ride/

 

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 5. Always use devices to help prevent runaway equipment.

 

I couldn't find the notice on Gore's and Whiteface's webpages, maybe you can. 

 

Here's some language from Greek Peak:
http://greekpeak.net/sites/default/files/Parent-Student-Manual.pdf

 

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  Always use devices to help prevent runaway equipment.

 

Leaving NY for a bit for somewhere where 143mm might seem perfectly normal:

http://www.snowbird.com/safety/

 

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 Always use devices to help prevent runaway equipment.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Just. Bend. Brakes. No ski choice debates. smile.gif

 

Agree 100% on both counts.

 

That said, I'm curious about the ski - just 'cause you know me and my wide ski thing :D

post #20 of 22
Spin, whats your BSL?
post #21 of 22

And here I  thought my Armada Bubbas were fat!!!!

post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by blackke17 View Post
 

And here I  thought my Armada Bubbas were fat!!!!

 

Ask spindrift about GaryWayne skis sometime. 

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