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Shortlist to Demo this year? I miss my S3's.

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

1. A daily driver western NY Holiday valley, Holimont  750 vertical feet ,(trees, icy moguls, and a little park).

 

2. Obviously moguls and trees any steeps or challenges to be found in this little area groomed runs almost as fast as anyone on the hill.

 

3. Ski at home 30-40 days. Hopefully get ten days of trips out west and one or two trips to bigger mountains in the east.

 

4. Realistically I am an advanced intermediate. I ski my home hills quite well, but as soon as I leave this area, it doesn't take much to humble me.

 

5. 5'8" 140lbs. 45 yrs old with legs that are getting stronger, but toothpicks nonetheless. I think this is where I don't fall into normal ski recommendations.

 

I had Sin 7's 164 cm and loved them,and probably will end up with another pair, but there must be another brand or model out there that would do as well or better. I currently own Soul 7's but they are 172cm and not ideal at anything ( not nimble as I would like in moguls or treesnot fat enough in thick powder) The S3 was just the most unconscious easy ski I have ever laid my hands on. What brands and or models should I be looking into for that confidence boosting lightweight huge sweet spot easy on the legs short skiing noodle that puts a smile on my face. I wouldn't be looking if I hadn't sold these other skis to support some friends into getting bit by the ski bug. I just have to believe that someone has made an improvement over the old S3's for me.

ty

bud

post #2 of 9

Nordica Soul Rider

Armada Invictus 95

Salomon Quest 95 or Rocker 100

K2 Pinnacle 95

 

All are fine choices for a lighter skier that will still hold pretty well on firmer conditions when need be. 

post #3 of 9
I'm about your size, 5'7", 145-150 pounds, probably a bit more advanced. For the past three seasons I've gone to Big Sky for a day of demos with Nordica, Salomon, Atomic and this year Blizzard. Whenever I come back and the ski I want next isn't available I have always hopped on the Soul Riders and whatever the conditions they put a smile on my face. After three years of this I'm adding them to my collection this year. Now if I could just find a pair with the old evil clown graphics.biggrin.gif I have only ever been on the 177s and they're great. Tip and tail rocker makes them ski short. Both of the Salomons Phil mentioned are good skis too.
post #4 of 9

Another question is would you want to spend money on either ski lessons or personal training at the gym to break out of adv. intermediate rut?  

Then your ski choices would expand, and your skis such as the soul7s will feel less awkward.

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

First off, thank you thank you for the recommends, and I will definitely try the skis! And especially the lightweight perspective!

 

Secondly, I usually get three private lessons a year. And I have been mountain biking as much as possible til I broke my collar bone a couple of weeks ago (rented downhill bike with maxed out rebound in rear shock). So I have just started a little jogging and am planning a bit of leg training to try and get my skiing to the next level.

 

So, if I can get myself into decent skiing shape then what would you recommend considering that I still will only weigh 145 and loooove a ski that will flex and turn on dime, and haven't had an issue with a ski holding an edge for years ( many times all we have is ice).

ty

bud

post #6 of 9

I would have said Sin 7s to replace the S3s anyway. They are better on piste than the S3's were and don't seem to lose anything on soft snow either and you can probably ski them even longer too than 164? I'm same weight as you and ski the 180s and they are easier to ski casually than my 163 Head Titans, the Sins actually have less effective edge length. So if you like them a lot already then....

Possibly use them as a base to compare with the Nordica Soul Riders, probably in the same space use wise, as they are quite fun skis too, albeit wider at the ends (depends if you get lots of new snow?), little bit heavier and less rocker than the Sins have at the front.

Another way out there suggestion might be the Blizzard Samba if you like skis that width but don't want burly. I know its a womens ski but .... ;-)

post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

Nordica Soul Rider

Armada Invictus 95

Salomon Quest 95 or Rocker 100

K2 Pinnacle 95

 

All are fine choices for a lighter skier that will still hold pretty well on firmer conditions when need be. 

Tagging along because I'm close to OP size wise. Pinnacle 95 is on my short list too. Don't know of a Salomon Quest 95, are you referring to the Q-98? That one I demoed two seasons ago, not a bad ski to recommend either.

post #8 of 9

I am 5'6" and 150lbs, but perhaps athletically built.  I had a pair of 168 S3s, which I used for 2 seasons and while I agree they were super easy to ski, I also demo-ed soul7 172s for 3days and found them to be just as good if not superior to my s3s in all aspects, and just as easy to manuever for me and would be a straight replacement for me for the s3s.  

 

All the rossis had really easy turn shapes and I felt I could put the ski anywhere and exactly where I needed it.  Of course, I was also blessed with good snow which can make anybody feel confident.  

 

if you're thinking of 164 sin7s, while still being taller than me, that should be extremely easy to ski.  That is why I think it maybe a technique issue, where perhaps you're missing a turn technique from your tool belt, and perfecting the turn techniques would help more to boost your experience than the ski choice. 

 

Not an instructor so I can't tell, but just speaking about my own experience and it was technique improvements that got me more fun versus always looking for the ski's technology to solve the issue.

 

Anyway, try the soul riders if you're looking.

post #9 of 9

The Sin 7 might just be your ski.  There is nothing wrong with that if you "love" them.

 

For the scenario you describe, the Soul Rider is a good choice - like others here, I think that they are awesome and fun, and they are totally outside of the type of skis that I usually go for.  But I'd caution you that they are very different from the Rossi S skis.  The Soul Riders are quick, snappy and have a ton of pop.  And they also carve soft groomers better, with more stability, than you'd expect for a ski of this shape and construction.  Nordica seems to have a nice formula for giving skis without metal appropriate stability.  Relative to the Rossi S skis (that I've been on), the Soul Rider is quick in a more snap, pop way (the Rossis are more sharp and knify), and the ski feels less lightweight and slippery.  To me, the Soul Riders feel a bit more solid.  Just my impression, but with the Soul Riders you really feel the "pop" if you weight and load the ski - they snap in bumps and generally bouncing off stuff.  But the Rossi's probably ski better if your style is more to slither edge to edge.

 

Based on stuff I've tried, I think that you might find the Solli Q98 to be closer in feel to the old S3 - maybe even an improvement.  Another one to look at, as a lighter guy, especially if you want to hit the bargain bin, would be the old Atomic Theory which becomes the Vantage 95 this season. 

 

Before you convince yourself through extensive research that there is something better for you, I'd recommend demo'ing a few things to see if your baseline has changed, if you like other stuff and if comments in reviews (professional or lay) map to what you actually feel on the skis.

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