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post #151 of 160
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I like Snowmass. You just have to accept you are going to be making big circuits rather than yo-yoing one lift.

 

I like yo-yoing (can't believe that is actually a word) one lift. At my age, I am forgetful - like what am I skiing. Good to focus and concentrate. I also get lost quite easily.

 

Come to Taos and I can show you some yo-yoing. Ten minute laps on Kachina Peak. 5 up & 5 down. Just think 6 runs per hour.

With the lift operating hours between 10 am & 3 pm, we can get 30 laps in. :eek 

 

Maybe not. I am glad I'm sitting down. My legs are tired just talking about it. :D 

post #152 of 160
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Originally Posted by mdf View Post

I like Snowmass. You just have to accept you are going to be making big circuits rather than yo-yoing one lift.

 

I like yo-yoing (can't believe that is actually a word) one lift. At my age, I am forgetful - like what am I skiing. Good to focus and concentrate. I also get lost quite easily.

 

Come to Taos and I can show you some yo-yoing. Ten minute laps on Kachina Peak. 5 up & 5 down. Just think 6 runs per hour.

With the lift operating hours between 10 am & 3 pm, we can get 30 laps in. :eek 

 

Maybe not. I am glad I'm sitting down. My legs are tired just talking about it. :D 

 

I'd argue with that, but I remember one day at Mammoth when I lost the group.  Then I saw you going speeding down a run-out and took off to try to catch you.  When I caught up to you (in the lift maze) I discovered you were lost too.

 

I am definitely trying for Taos this year.  Hey, somebody has to scout for the 2017 Gathering.

post #153 of 160
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That is funny, Pacob - including the Caribbean, sneaky and hilarious, died laughing!

 

Then again I thought Maine edge was further north than Washington State but it is a question of Epsilon , no? Marginal difference but then learn it is a spot in Minnesota but difference is tight and that in my view is a tough question - fair judgement - not many would know that unless they read that clearly somewhere. Guilty as charged, Maine-ed that wrong, for George's namesake and got that wrong too!

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I've seen where people think Alaska and Hawaii are approximately where they are shown above!

:ROTF

post #156 of 160

I think the terrain quality of the cited areas at Whistler/Blackcomb and Snowbird is vastly superior: longer fall line, more variations, much more snow. Plus those resorts have easily lift accessible expert terrain in addition.  Hanging Valley and the Cirque (where the steeps are short and most of the run is a runout) are all Snowmass has in terms of expert terrain.

 

But to some degree I see the point. We shouldn't mark Snowmass down that much for "Lifts," when 90+% of the terrain is efficiently served. The real criticism of Snowmass is that it doesn't have all that much expert terrain for an area its size.  Highlands has ~1/3 of Snowmass' acreage but far more expert terrain.  

 

I thought the P2P at W/B was a crazy amount of $$$ to spend on a "scenic ride" lift, but last April I did find it useful.  There were times when conditions suggested switching mountains and it was nice not having to go down to the bottom to do that. 

 

The Peruvian chair is an effective safety valve for Snowbird tram lines. I never wait more than 2 trams during my timeshare week any more.  Worst case scenario is you have to ski a run into Mineral Basin, then go up to Hidden Peak.   Compare to Jackson, where tram lines can be huge because it takes 3 alternative chair lifts to get up only 3/4 of the vertical.

post #157 of 160
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Ski Magazine's now posted their Top 10 list for the "Lifts" category (both East and West). For the West...

 

32. Park City

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10. Beaver Creek

9. Big White

8. Mammoth

7. Vail

6. Snowbird

5. Snowmass

4, Deer Valley

3. Snowbasin

2. Whistler Blackcomb

1. Sun Valley

 

My thoughts...

Congrats to the Holding family, taking #1 and #3! Snowbasin's lift system is awesome and I'm stoked to try Sun Valley this winter.

This made me curious to check out Big White's trail map--looks pretty fun!

 

Interestingly enough, I offered reviews for both Beaver Creek and Snowbasin this year.  I am a huge fan of the lifts at Snowbasin and Snowbird, and think Snowmass is also a decent Top 10 entry.  Deer Valley certainly has a ton of fast lifts, but the sprawling layout makes me not consider it top-notch in this category, especially as you have to take a lift up and over the first hill to get to a flat valley floor.

post #158 of 160
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Deer Valley certainly has a ton of fast lifts, but the sprawling layout makes me not consider it top-notch in this category, especially as you have to take a lift up and over the first hill to get to a flat valley floor.

Yes Deer Valley is an even more extreme example of convoluted topography rather than "Lifts" being the real problem.  

post #159 of 160

There's a lot of ski areas that require 2 (or more) lifts to lap certain parts of the terrain.  Breckenridge, Copper, Crested Butte, Jackson, WB, Kicking Horse, etc. Such layouts often reduce skier traffic and have the advantage of preserving snow.  I don't see them as necessarily a problem.

 

Snowmass has a lot of expert terrain that doesn't require 2 lifts.  If you want to ski the steepest stuff, though, it did but will not as of this season.  I'm not sure how that will really work out as the Hanging Valley has a lot of rocks that are exposed by ski traffic -- lower traffic has better conditions.

 

Mike

post #160 of 160
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Such layouts often reduce skier traffic and have the advantage of preserving snow.  I don't see them as necessarily a problem.

That depends on how fragile the snowpack is.  That combined with the difficulty of covering steep and rocky terrain with low water content snow makes this a valid concern many places in Colorado. 

 

To me it's usually about the ratio of hassle to quality skiing.  There may be multiple lifts at Jackson but the length of the challenging runs/quality skiing  is on a completely different level vs. Snowmass.

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