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Hi Guys - quick one:

 

I ski a 2014 Rossi Alltrack Pro 110 and really like it with my Superfeet.  10 days on the boot.  A little instep pinch (mine is pretty high) that doesn't really bother me - could have it looked at I guess.

 

More notable: the same issue I've been dealing with for years - my really really skinny ankles (leading to skinny-ish calves) are at the moment pretty well supported by the new-ish liner.  But I know it's just a matter of days until it breaks down and starts allowing WAY too much side to side ankle motion in the boot.  I'm one of those weirdos that can't ice skate because I skate on my ankles and while that's great for surfing, for edging not so much.  As a result I've adopted an unnecessary rigid-foot style when things get hairy that makes really finessing the edge about five times as tiring as it needs to be.

 

Would like your opinions on a solution: anything from a wearable support to beef things up ($) to going full custom foam liners ($$$$$).

 

I think this may be one of those things that only an experienced boot fitter might really understand, because unless you've experienced the feeling of your ankle nearly breaking from the in-boot shear created by bouncing in and out of race ruts or over crud at big speeds - or have dealt with lots of people like me who have - it just has to sound too weird to be true.

 

Any advice?

post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by makakio View Post
 

Hi Guys - quick one:

 

I ski a 2014 Rossi Alltrack Pro 110 and really like it with my Superfeet.  10 days on the boot.  A little instep pinch (mine is pretty high) that doesn't really bother me - could have it looked at I guess.

 

More notable: the same issue I've been dealing with for years - my really really skinny ankles (leading to skinny-ish calves) are at the moment pretty well supported by the new-ish liner.  But I know it's just a matter of days until it breaks down and starts allowing WAY too much side to side ankle motion in the boot.  I'm one of those weirdos that can't ice skate because I skate on my ankles and while that's great for surfing, for edging not so much.  As a result I've adopted an unnecessary rigid-foot style when things get hairy that makes really finessing the edge about five times as tiring as it needs to be.

 

Would like your opinions on a solution: anything from a wearable support to beef things up ($) to going full custom foam liners ($$$$$).

 

I think this may be one of those things that only an experienced boot fitter might really understand, because unless you've experienced the feeling of your ankle nearly breaking from the in-boot shear created by bouncing in and out of race ruts or over crud at big speeds - or have dealt with lots of people like me who have - it just has to sound too weird to be true.

 

Any advice?

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

Please read through the above article and do a "Shell Check" as described in it.

 

By the way, a piece of 1/2 inch CPVC plastic pipe 1 foot long  just happens to be 15mm in diameter on the out side---using your finger might vary dependent on how big your finger happened to be.  You can pick that up at Home depot in shorter lengths.

 

Before you purchase a new liner you could try tightening the second buckle from the top (the one around the ankle) till it hurts then back off till it is just comfortable, this will close the liner around your ankles and eliminate slop

 

mike

post #3 of 6
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Thanks Mike - shell fit is fine: 10-11mm length and light touch both sides of foot on width (100mm last).  

 

I have seen some discussion on the web that for people with skinny ankles, high calves and prominent cuboid Tecnica's are a good last (but my proform come a la the Rossi rep, so...)

 

Will try cranking on the second (ankle) buckle as advised.

 

Wondering if foam liners are really all they're cracked up to be (from a bootfitter's perspective) - and whether you recommend a particular model?

post #4 of 6
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Originally Posted by makakio View Post
 

Thanks Mike - shell fit is fine: 10-11mm length and light touch both sides of foot on width (100mm last).  

 

I have seen some discussion on the web that for people with skinny ankles, high calves and prominent cuboid Tecnica's are a good last (but my proform come a la the Rossi rep, so...)

 

Will try cranking on the second (ankle) buckle as advised.

 

Wondering if foam liners are really all they're cracked up to be (from a bootfitter's perspective) - and whether you recommend a particular model?

I would try the second buckle trick before putting money into a new liner.

 

Zipfit liners:)

 

You mentioned "High Calves"---what is your calf circumference at the top of the liner?  This issue plays into the fore/aft balance conundrum.

 

mike

post #5 of 6
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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post
 

I would try the second buckle trick before putting money into a new liner.

 

Zipfit liners:)

 

You mentioned "High Calves"---what is your calf circumference at the top of the liner?  This issue plays into the fore/aft balance conundrum.

 

mike

 

 

Circumference at skinniest point (just above anklebones) = 8.5"

Circumference at boot cuff (top back of spoiler) = 11.5"

post #6 of 6

If you are going to buy a liner, then Mike is correct that the ipfit is the way to go.  You can keep adding cork and probably keep it fairly solid.

 

On the other hand your assessment of the problem is good and you are still asking a lot of the liners and to a great degree what you are asking of the liners is what we want the shell to do..

 

Why are you skiing a boot with a walk mode?

 

Have you tried a 95mm lasted boot and if you did what were the results?

 

Lou

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