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Many new boot models have multicolor sole plates: can you cant those soles?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

I may be in need of a new pair of boots.  My current ones are Atomic Redsters, with a solid sole.  

 

Most of the new boots out there seem to have multicolored soles, with those multiple parts screwed in place.

Can these soles be canted?  They don't look like they can to me.

If not, I want to avoid even trying them on as I look for new boots, as I expect sole canting is in my future.  

post #2 of 15
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

I may be in need of a new pair of boots.  My current ones are Atomic Redsters, with a solid sole.  

 

Most of the new boots out there seem to have multicolored soles, with those multiple parts screwed in place.

Can these soles be canted?  They don't look like they can to me.

If not, I want to avoid even trying them on as I look for new boots, as I expect sole canting is in my future.  

Hi LiquidFeet,

 

So---------have you been evaluated for canting needs?

 

do you have custom insoles?

 

mike

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

Yes. Yes.

 

I don't want to buy yet another boot and find out later I need canting, but the boot won't allow it.

post #4 of 15

If you want to plane the boot sole to cant it then stick with the solid sole boots.

 

mike

post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks, that's what I thought.  

post #6 of 15

A little food for thought.

 

You should know your canting and stance needs, or at least have an idea, prior to purchasing a new boot as boot construction can be a limiting factor. It really sucks to tell someone the new boot they just bought somewhere else can't be adapted to their needs.

 

Many boots with replaceable toes and heels are Cantology compatible. 

 

DIN compatibility is +/- 1mm, it is usually possible to plane a new boot sole ,5-1 degree without falling out of compliance if you take advantage of the concavity and/or warpage in most boot soles. However it is even more important to protect the sole in daily use after this.

 

In general though, solid soles are better for stance adjustments and have the added advantage of skiing better.

 

 

 

jl

post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks, BOOTech.  

I didn't know there was warpage in most boot soles.  Are you talking out of the box?

 

Anyway, I've been to numerous bootfitters in the last 5 years, all on the basis of very high recommendations from pros.

They have told me different things about my canting needs.  Not every bootfitter agrees.

I went without canting last year to wait and see, and since I didn't race I didn't notice a need.  

This year may be different, and I may be in new boots as well.  Thus the uncertainty about whether they will be canted or not.

I'll be using a new bootfitter as well.  

post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

Have any of the bootfitters here done canting of these multi-part soles?  Is it something you'd rather not do for some reason?

 

Can canting these soles be as effective as solid sole canting, in your experience?  If not, as BOOTech and Miketsc indicate, why is that?

post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Have any of the bootfitters here done canting of these multi-part soles?  Is it something you'd rather not do for some reason?

 

Can canting these soles be as effective as solid sole canting, in your experience?  If not, as BOOTech and Miketsc indicate, why is that?

If you were to remove one of the boot soles you mentioned you would find that most of them aer hollow inside and only make contact with the shell of the boot around the perimeter and around each screw hole----this is usually done to make the boot lighter.  This also limits how much material you can remove from the boot sole and top of the boot lugs because you will create a hole into this voided area, no fun  :eek.  

 

mike

post #10 of 15

Yes canting them is as effective, if as Mike said it can be done.  Some of them have canting kits available from the manufacturer so everything has been taken into account.  Most however don't, and I'd certainly prefer to can't a solid sole point to one as your describing.

 

Lou

post #11 of 15

Wow my spell check is wreaking havoc on my messages.  Last sentence should have read "I"d certainly prefer to cant a solid soled boot to one as you're describing."
 

Lou

post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 

Well, that's the message I think I'm hearing.  Solid sole it will be for me, if I end up replacing my current boots.  

post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post
 

Well, that's the message I think I'm hearing.  Solid sole it will be for me, if I end up replacing my current boots.  

Not necessarily, Lange, Nordica and Tecnica as examples offers the ability to can in between the shell and the sole. It is a great design and will open some options for you. 

post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks, @Phil.  Do you know whether the K2 Spyre and Spyne offer this capability?  

post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by LiquidFeet View Post

Thanks, @Phil
.  Do you know whether the K2 Spyre and Spyne offer this capability?  
Unfortunately they do not.
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