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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Just wanted to explore the option of having a really good skier provide lessons. 

 

I have the Tahoe Local seasons pass. Ski at Tahoe resorts (Northstar, Kirkwood, Heavenly) and am also going to make a trip to Salt Lake (Park City) in Jan and to Vail/Brek in Feb. I am an advanced skier and am interested in bump/powder lessons and maybe an overall lesson to improve my skiing.

 

I would think half day/couple of hours would be good enough. Has anyone tried this in the past? Does it even make sense to go down this path?

post #2 of 21

:popcorn  subscribed....

post #3 of 21

One suggestion would be to take a lesson with Robin Barnes at Heavenly.  She is a two-time demo team member, and a particularly gifted instructor.  She also runs the ski school at Portillo.

 

Mike

post #4 of 21
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Has anyone tried this in the past? Does it even make sense to go down this path?

 

You mean hiring someone not affiliated with the resort or any resort to give you a lesson? Most places (meaning all of the places you mentioned I think) that will get you kicked out of the resort. 

post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by amver View Post
 

Just wanted to explore the option of having a really good skier provide lessons. 

 

I have the Tahoe Local seasons pass. Ski at Tahoe resorts (Northstar, Kirkwood, Heavenly) and am also going to make a trip to Salt Lake (Park City) in Jan and to Vail/Brek in Feb. I am an advanced skier and am interested in bump/powder lessons and maybe an overall lesson to improve my skiing.

 

I would think half day/couple of hours would be good enough. Has anyone tried this in the past? Does it even make sense to go down this path?

Bumps? Tim Donohue at Northstar. Powder? So much depends on what the conditions are, but Tim can do both. Now, if you are looking for a good skier to go skiing with and teach you a few things? While they might be good skiers, does not mean they are good teachers. 

post #6 of 21

I’m confused.Why aren’t you simply taking a lesson or two or ten?

post #7 of 21

For getting the hang of powder skiing why not hire a pair of fat skis as I found they improved my confidence substantially as I used to have a lot of twisting falls on my narrower skis that would sink in the snow a lot. Where I live in NZ our powder is mostly heavy and wet.

post #8 of 21

It does make sense to go this path !!!

 

Please report results here on EpicSki.

post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 

To be candid, I am trying to take lessons without paying the resort for an overpriced lesson. It is similar to finding someone on Craigslist who can teach. Yes, there is a risk on the quality of the person you might find (vs going with a resort teacher). I go skiing with friends who are not as good as me and I do tell me how they can improve their skiing - it doesn't hurt the resort - they have two people purchasing lift tickets (or seasons pass).

 

At the end of the day, from what I hear, the person giving the lesson does not make much money and most of it is pocketed by the resort. I doubt the resort will kick me out saying 'oh, that guy is telling u how you can improve your skiing - so we're kicking u and him out'. Doesn't make sense.

post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

I did buy a pair of Volkl Shiro (119 waist) a couple of weeks ago. Can't wait to try them in the pow!!

post #11 of 21

In Europe there are options along these lines.  However here in the states it's like going to a restaurant and buying a drink but trying to bring your own chef to cook your own food there.  They freak out petty badly when they discover it happening, and they do when instructors try to freelance at the same place repeatedly. There are US Forest service regulations that grant resorts the right to dictate who can collect revenue for service and who can't on resort property here.

post #12 of 21
Hush hush and there is way to do it.
post #13 of 21
Come skiing with Phil and I (old guys) and if you can keep up, Phil's advice is free.
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
If i can keep up with an instructor then either he/she doesn't ski well enough or I ski well enough already smile.gif

Are Phil & u in Elk Grove/Sacto?
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hey resort trolls, if u r here snooping on posts that might challenge ur strong hold- I am only planning of compensation in the likes of giving a ride to the coach or buying lunch or something like that..... Nothing that'll hurt your biz!! smile.gif
post #16 of 21
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One option for you is to get one of your friends to take some video of your skiing and post it on here in the "Instruction" forum.  There are various instructors who post here who are willing to give you a critique, for free.  Leave your ego behind if you decide to go that route.

post #18 of 21
Just don't forget to tip as well.....beercheer.gif
post #19 of 21
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Hey resort trolls, if u r here snooping on posts that might challenge ur strong hold- I am only planning of compensation in the likes of giving a ride to the coach or buying lunch or something like that..... Nothing that'll hurt your biz!! smile.gif


Send me a round trip from Newark and I'll meet you for coaching in Aspen every weekend.

 

BK

post #20 of 21
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Come skiing with Phil and I (old guys) and if you can keep up, Phil's advice is free.

Philpug lives in Reno. I'm in Sacramento/Elk Grove.

Honestly though I'm sure one of us will meet you and ski with you.
post #21 of 21

Ok - here's the deal. What Amver is seeking to do would be either illegal for the person providing the instruction and/or against resort policy. We wish to be a positive force within the industry. We don't want resorts looking at a us as a cause of their troubles. As such, EpicSki will not facilitate this endeavor. Therefore this thread is being locked.

 

Most Western US ski resorts are on US Forest Service land. The USFS requires all commercial activity performed on USFS property to be conducted under a permit. Any kind of compensation for services rendered creates a commercial relationship. "Under the table" instruction like Amver seeks is prohibited by federal law at all resorts located on USFS property. Most resorts located on private property quietly ban "under the table" instruction for the same reason they do not allow food trucks to sell food in the parking lot: it detracts from the profitability of their business, While EpicSki acknowledges that "under the table" instruction does occur and the activity is only lightly policed (i.e. the odds of getting caught if one does this one time are quite low) we still have made the business decision to not facilitate this kind of activity so that we are not a part of making this activity a bigger problem for resorts. We also deem it to be our civic duty to caution those who seek to engage "under the table" instructors that instructors engaging in such activity will not have the benefit of liability insurance in case something goes wrong. If one has any concern about the quality if the instruction provided and the extra risks involved, one should think twice about going this route,

 

It is quite common for friends or family members to help each other learn to ski better. Epic is a great place to make new ski friends. If anyone wants to make friends with Amver and help out, the best way to do this is via private message.

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