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I’m just curious if I did anything wrong in the process? Or just if my preferences changed in combination with beeing a more enlightened buyer.

 

Me. 42yrs, 220lbs  advanced skier. Skied for 30 years but three years ago I got bitten by the bug and went from 5-10 days a year to 20-25.

 

Two seasons ago I realized that I had ridiculous soft boots and started to read the interwebz even posting some in retrospect naive question on epic. I followed the shared wisdom and did my research and found a reputable boot fitter (unfortunately 800km away one way travel).  

Got fitted into a pair of Dalbello Panterra 120 ID. And I got exactly what I wanted. I tried a bunch of boots and we discussed tightness of fit and made a pair of custom insoles. We also discussed that the forward lean was rather upright. An instructor friend of mine had noted that I had a too crouched stance and that I was crushing my soft boots so I assumed a more upright forward lean on the boot would be beneficial. I walked away as a happy customer.

 

The new boots was great except for that I had a tendency to end up in the back-seat. I took me 8 days to adjust my technique.  And still I had a tendency to slip back when a larger range of motion was needed such as in bumpy terrain. In later part of the season I experimented with rear spoiler (piece of sheet cork and duct tape) and that clearly helped.  I discussed the spoiler with the boot fitter along with some needed punching due to that the liner had packed out a bit. However a dedicated travel to fix the boots seamed not highest priority at summertime. I had also found that the boots was too heavy and had too restricted walk mode for serious touring and that I got blisters due to bad heel grip in hike mode.

 

After the season I started research a lighter AT setup-up but it was too expensive at the moment. Out of plain luck, on a Swedish ski forum a pair of Scarpa freedom SL (flex 120, with both tech and alpine soles, used three days) with the right size was sold at a very attractive prize. I agreed with the seller that I could return the boots if they did not fit but paying the freight costs. The fit was really tight over the instep but no pressure points. The shell fit showed that the boot was slightly large but a whole uniform tightness held the foot firmly in place. But with some extra unnecessary room in the toe box.  The reason why I wanted these particular boots was the 8 degree forward lean adjustment, combined with the AT abilities. One season wiser the tighter fit was an extra +

 

After cooking the liners at a friendly local shop and adjusting forward lean  I tried them on man-made early season snow. These boots was the answer to all my (revised) requirements. The old boots was quickly sold cheap and I have never looked back. I understand I was extremely lucky finding a good fit by buying used boots online. But in the end this was probably better than trying to fix my old boots.


Edited by emil - 8/25/15 at 10:21pm
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It sounds as if everything has worked fine.  

 

I would add only that binding delta angle, binding fore/aft position and boot ramp angle can also cause sitting back.  So there can be many things to look for.  It is fairly easy to experiment with all these and since you are in a learning frame of mind I'd start playing.

 

Lou

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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post

It sounds as if everything has worked fine.  

I would add only that binding delta angle, binding fore/aft position and boot ramp angle can also cause sitting back.  So there can be many things to look for.  It is fairly easy to experiment with all these and since you are in a learning frame of mind I'd start playing.

Lou

OK thanks.

By the way I did play with the adjustable boot boards on the Dalbello boot with marginal effect. I also measured the binding delta angle to check if there was any difference betwen new and old skis.
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