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Too far forward? What flex

post #1 of 11
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Me, 67 years young, Level 7-8, 204lbs skiing stiff  skis mostly 174-179 and love cruising. I was on Rachlie Flexon Comps for 20 years and have always enjoyed the flex of the boot until they changed the mold and then they no longer fit my foot which is very narrow. The Solomon Max 130 fit me best with some punch out for bunions. This is a really good fitting boot for me in the 98 last but it has always been drilled into me to have a good flex. I felt the flex was too stiff so I first ground the inner shell somewhat, then removed the first bolt and finally the second bolt. The boot seemed to flex perfectly after I cut the middle strap of the 3 strap booster (racing strap). I decided to order the exact same boot in the 100 flex this year just to try it out. I noticed that gap in the Max 130 on the left and wounder if I am way to soft. As far as skiing the boot preforms flawlessly but I want to do some club racing this year. What are your thoughts on both bolts out and the gap?

Thanks

post #2 of 11

Gap is irrelevant as really are flex numbers for comparisons.  That said most 100 flex boots are at least on the soft side.  Can't imagine a reason why someone 205 lbs that wants to race would ski a boot that soft.

 

Lou

post #3 of 11

Levi1,

 

Your problem may be stemming more from a fore/aft alignment issue than from the boots flex number.  If your mass is riding too far aft over the boot sole, you will/may feel like you are unable to flex the boot.  

 

Seek out an alignment specialist and have this checked out---where are you located?

 

Lou is right about a 130 flex boot not being too stiff for your body type---I weigh 180 and ski a 130 flex Salomon with no problems.

 

Taking both bolts out will eliminate any rebound the boot could have had---what size calf muscle circumference at the top of the liner---what size boot sole (on the side of the heel in mm)?

 

mike


Edited by miketsc - 8/25/15 at 8:18am
post #4 of 11
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Hi Mike and thanks, 

 

Although I have been canted and aligned  many times over many years I have never been checked for fore/aft alignment. I always play with the flex seeking a more forward stance I believe. I have seen a few articles. Give me some suggestions on knowledgeable people and where the shops are. I am in Ohio, travel to New York, Pa and going somewhere west this year. 

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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post
 

Hi Mike and thanks, 

 

Although I have been canted and aligned  many times over many years I have never been checked for fore/aft alignment. I always play with the flex seeking a more forward stance I believe. I have seen a few articles. Give me some suggestions on knowledgeable people and where the shops are. I am in Ohio, travel to New York, Pa and going somewhere west this year. 

Fore/aft balance alignment can be affected by: Boot board angle

                                                                     Delta angle (binding heel to toe differential)

                                                                     forward lean angle of the boot

                                                                     The size of you calf muscle

 

fore aft balance is affected by the forward lean  of the boot, because it tilts your tibia (shin bone) forward to move your center of mass ahead of the boot sole center.

your calf muscle size will move your tibia more or less forward dependent on it's size (diameter) so this too can affect your balance over the boot sole center. 

 

Calf size can move your center of mass too far forward or backward by having too much or too little forward lean in the boot---since we can't change the size of your calf then the only thing left is to change the forward lean of the boot----too much forward lean for your calf size will cause you to sit back to get off of the front of the ski, this also uses up available ranges of motion at the ankle and may seem like you can't feel the tongue of the boot--- too little will cause you to stand on your heel at transition, often you will have to pick up the uphill ski to release the uphill edge in order to start the new turn.

 

Some shops are doing "toe lifts" to tilt the boot to accommodate fore/aft issues---works for some folks, and has limited affect as you can only tilt a boot so far.

 

I had asked for your calf size at the top of the liner and boot sole length???

 

Start Haus in Truckee California has a rep as being a good place to check out if you re going out west. (Lake Tahoe area)

 

on the other hand I am closer than Truckee:cool

 

mike

post #6 of 11
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Hi Mike

 

Calf 58 using a metal tape

 

315 Boot sole length

 

small heel lifts under liner by Boot Dr

 

If you go here you can see my bootfitting by Boot Dr. After posting the picture of my stance I received a lot of comments pointing out I did not have any angulation. They were correct and I received lessons in Sunday River which corrected the problem, 

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/127545/props-to-the-boot-dr-telluride-bob-gleason-alignment-canting-foot-beds-you-are-the-master

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post
 

Hi Mike

 

Calf 58 using a metal tape

 

315 Boot sole length

 

small heel lifts under liner by Boot Dr

 

If you go here you can see my bootfitting by Boot Dr. After posting the picture of my stance I received a lot of comments pointing out I did not have any angulation. They were correct and I received lessons in Sunday River which corrected the problem, 

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/127545/props-to-the-boot-dr-telluride-bob-gleason-alignment-canting-foot-beds-you-are-the-master

I have to wonder about the 58 number, is that in mm or centimeters----I have never seen a human being with 58cm circumference calves when measured at the top of the boot liner.

 

Could I get a re-check on that measurement?  Circumference at the top of the liner please:).

 

mike

post #8 of 11
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58 mm

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post
 

58 mm

I'm loosing something in the translation---My thumb is 78mm in circumference---I can't picture your calf being 58mm.

 

Mike


Edited by miketsc - 8/26/15 at 11:11am
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post #11 of 11
That looks like 358mm , but then that is an awfully wide tape to be trying to measure your calf---to get a more accurate read, try slipping the tape tnside the liner so that the top edge of the tape is at the top of the liner and take a new measurement.

Mike
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